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    #31
    Originally posted by coolkat View Post
    I haven't set up anything in Ireland yet.
    Everything is UK based up until now.
    I have being paying dividends in EUR though...
    Professional advice needed again, but you run the risk of having to declare those divis on your Irish self-assessment (not because of currency but because it arises from work undertaken in Ireland and you are Irish resident and tax resident). You are then paying UK CT, and full Irish tax on the divis. Better if there is a way of paying back divis (error? Director's Loan? again needs advice) and then paying it as Irish salary through some kind of payroll solution or Irish Director's umbrella. The tax hit will be massive but you know that.

    You need to find a way of dealing with what you've already paid to yourself as UK salary with UK NI paid to HMRC.

    What did OSK advise?

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      #32
      Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
      Professional advice needed again, but you run the risk of having to declare those divis on your Irish self-assessment (not because of currency but because it arises from work undertaken in Ireland and you are Irish resident and tax resident). You are then paying UK CT, and full Irish tax on the divis. Better if there is a way of paying back divis (error? Director's Loan? again needs advice) and then paying it as Irish salary through some kind of payroll solution or Irish Director's umbrella. The tax hit will be massive but you know that.

      You need to find a way of dealing with what you've already paid to yourself as UK salary with UK NI paid to HMRC.

      What did OSK advise?
      northernladyuk, they have advised me something very similar to what you hereby said:
      pay IT over salary carried out in UK, and all the rest remitted to Ireland as dividends...
      I definitely don't want to use an Umbrella solution, first because I don't see it as necessary in my case, and second I'd rather go permy!

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        #33
        Originally posted by coolkat View Post
        northernladyuk, they have advised me something very similar to what you hereby said:
        pay IT over salary carried out in UK, and all the rest remitted to Ireland as dividends...
        I definitely don't want to use an Umbrella solution, first because I don't see it as necessary in my case, and second I'd rather go permy!
        Did they tell you whether you need to pay personal tax in Ireland on the dividends?

        BTW, a Director's Umbrella is different from an Umbrella. You get some self-employed type beneficial tax rates but they're not great.

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          #34
          Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
          Did they tell you whether you need to pay personal tax in Ireland on the dividends?

          BTW, a Director's Umbrella is different from an Umbrella. You get some self-employed type beneficial tax rates but they're not great.
          Yes, tax over divis applies.
          Could you please provide more information on this Director's Umbrella and link to calculation?

          Thanks!

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            #35
            Originally posted by coolkat View Post
            Yes, tax over divis applies.
            Could you please provide more information on this Director's Umbrella and link to calculation?

            Thanks!
            If you are paying Irish tax on divis, then, I think you pay tax on it as income, therefore approx. 50%, once you are past the very low threshold. And you've already paid UK CT on the gross amount. I think you need more advice! You're in a very complicated position.

            Icon Accounting – Director Umbrella Company
            Last edited by northernladyuk; 14 August 2017, 14:55.

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              #36
              Originally posted by coolkat View Post
              Yes, I' m an EU citizen.
              By the EU laws, you are allowed to have UK Ltd company and get contracts around EEA...
              You are but you are not free to choose the tax regime you prefer.

              You work in Ireland pay tax in Ireland. Also company pays uk tax and adjusted for Irish tax already paid.

              Very messy doing it that way hence awkward better to take the brolly hit when contacting mid-short term in EU, or engage a specialist EU tax advisor not cheap...

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                #37
                Originally posted by coolkat View Post
                northernladyuk, they have advised me something very similar to what you hereby said:
                pay IT over salary carried out in UK, and all the rest remitted to Ireland as dividends...
                I definitely don't want to use an Umbrella solution, first because I don't see it as necessary in my case, and second I'd rather go permy!
                The most tax efficient solution in Ireland is Director Umbrella, and as you are working here you’ll pay Irish tax on everything so better get used to it!

                I’ve accepted it, cos I like it here and the whole place is more relaxed.

                Have you no PSN? What if you get ill?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by stek View Post
                  The most tax efficient solution in Ireland is Director Umbrella, and as you are working here you’ll pay Irish tax on everything so better get used to it!

                  I’ve accepted it, cos I like it here and the whole place is more relaxed.

                  Have you no PSN? What if you get ill?
                  OP said has a PPSN.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                    OP said has a PPSN.
                    Yeah sorry missed that.

                    Safe to say OP isn’t registered with the Revenue Commissioners, has a PPSN, so an Irish address.

                    I’d imagine a tax return dropping through the door at some point?

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