IR35 Forum - July minutes

[northernladuk]

So how long do we have before this is rolled out in the private sector? Anyone got any intelligent guesses? 2-3 years?

April the 1st.

[Jenme]

So how long do we have before this is rolled out in the private sector? Anyone got any intelligent guesses? 2-3 years?

Having spoken to the IR35 Helpline a lot over the last month or so (DH is newly setting up in the private sector inside IR35) they told me they were working on it now. That said, they also gave me a lot of other information that they ended up calling me back on, to correct.

It has to be in the pipeline, unfortunately, it doesn't make sense not to be.

[lhgleicester]

IR35 public sector impact

Hi all

I am a journalist for BBC Radio 4 looking into the impact of the IR35 public sector rule change.

Currently we're looking for people who've been personally affected and perhaps left their contract - or seen instances of people leaving.

If you are interested, please get in touch by replying to this thread, and I'll send you a direct message.

Many thanks

[northernladuk]

Do we get to meet the PR4L?

[poorautojobber]

Hi all

I am a journalist for BBC Radio 4 looking into the impact of the IR35 public sector rule change.

Currently we're looking for people who've been personally affected and perhaps left their contract - or seen instances of people leaving.

If you are interested, please get in touch by replying to this thread, and I'll send you a direct message.

Many thanks

May be worth posting on some of the social work/doctors/nurses forums i've only ever done private sector. All i can see this as is a money grab by HMRC. They got bored of losing in court so changed the rules on people so they can no longer defend themselves. Where not big enough to be able to defend ourselves legally without help and the public see an advertised job rate in the sun and think thats what ends up in our pockets they don't understand what it means to run a business. Well just suck it up, increase rates, move abroad, or go permie. HMRC seem to think this is a good idea so who am i to question they never get it wrong

[jamesbrown]

Hi all

I am a journalist for BBC Radio 4 looking into the impact of the IR35 public sector rule change.

Currently we're looking for people who've been personally affected and perhaps left their contract - or seen instances of people leaving.

If you are interested, please get in touch by replying to this thread, and I'll send you a direct message.

Many thanks

You should ask IPSE too, if you haven't already.

https://www.ipse.co.uk/

[BrilloPad]

Hi all

I am a journalist for BBC Radio 4 looking into the impact of the IR35 public sector rule change.

Currently we're looking for people who've been personally affected and perhaps left their contract - or seen instances of people leaving.

If you are interested, please get in touch by replying to this thread, and I'll send you a direct message.

Many thanks

Anyone who gets involved is mad. You will be be portrayed as tax evading scum. The media just does HMRC bidding.

Note that the media does not care about HMRC LYING in the meeting minutes. Or LYING to parliament. Or retrospectively changing the law.

[SueEllen]

Anyone who gets involved is mad. You will be be portrayed as tax evading scum. The media just does HMRC bidding.

Note that the media does not care about HMRC LYING in the meeting minutes. Or LYING to parliament. Or retrospectively changing the law.

Only get involved if you, personally, have had/have cancer or some other horrible disease in the last 5 years that can easily get sympathy where you need loads of time off.

Also if interviewed mention the disease in every other sentence e.g. do a Tony Blair as then it is harder to edit out.

Any other situation just means like Brillo says you will be made look like tax avoiding scum.

[TheFaQQer]

Anyone who gets involved is mad. You will be be portrayed as tax evading scum. The media just does HMRC bidding.

Note that the media does not care about HMRC LYING in the meeting minutes. Or LYING to parliament. Or retrospectively changing the law.

The counterpoint to that portrayal is to make a clear, eloquent explanation of why that's not the case and keep reiterating the message. If nobody is prepared to speak out then it makes it a lot easier to say "nobody complained" (first they came for etc etc) - real cases and examples of why this is wrong speak volumes.

[malvolio]

The counterpoint to that portrayal is to make a clear, eloquent explanation of why that's not the case and keep reiterating the message. If nobody is prepared to speak out then it makes it a lot easier to say "nobody complained" (first they came for etc etc) - real cases and examples of why this is wrong speak volumes.

And also make one hell of a fuss if what they report is not what you said... which is what IPSE have already done about the minutes.

FFS if we CBA to fight this nonsense from HMRC, especially because of paranoid fears about being seen to complain, then we deserve all we get.