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    #51
    Originally posted by Snooky View Post
    The fact that you have to try and find concrete reasons, and it's not a completely obvious no-brainer, just reinforces my view that it's not really applicable to most "traditional" contractors any more, and will become considerably less relevant to them after April 2020.
    Define "Traditional". You and me, perhaps, doing office-based work for a serial clients for 3 to 36 months at a time, adding skills and expertise to a limited requirement?

    The world has moved on. The independent workforce is no longer the preserve of the knowledge economy, it's 40% of the total workforce and generates billions of pounds for UK's GDP. IPSE have recognised that, it seems, and are moving with it. Too many "traditional" contractors haven't, and are still thinking the old ways still apply. They don't, and if you don't move with the times then 2020 will indeed be a watershed.
    Blog? What blog...?

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      #52
      Originally posted by malvolio View Post
      Define "Traditional". You and me, perhaps, doing office-based work for a serial clients for 3 to 36 months at a time, adding skills and expertise to a limited requirement?

      The world has moved on. The independent workforce is no longer the preserve of the knowledge economy, it's 40% of the total workforce and generates billions of pounds for UK's GDP. IPSE have recognised that, it seems, and are moving with it. Too many "traditional" contractors haven't, and are still thinking the old ways still apply. They don't, and if you don't move with the times then 2020 will indeed be a watershed.
      Traditional as in 80% of the current membership like you and me (till a few weeks ago)

      Ipse represents “ future “ not traditional members now as you say, who mostly don’t/won’t join ipse anyway




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        #53
        Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
        Traditional as in 80% of the current membership like you and me (till a few weeks ago)

        Ipse represents “ future “ not traditional members now as you say, who mostly don’t/won’t join ipse anyway




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        Except they are joining. Look at who is on the MF...
        Blog? What blog...?

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          #54
          Originally posted by malvolio View Post
          Except they are joining. Look at who is on the MF...
          No. No they're not. As you know, I have seen the numbers and they are not good.

          And as for the members forum. Ha!

          Now, off you pop. There's a good chap.
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            #55
            Originally posted by wattaj View Post
            No. No they're not. As you know, I have seen the numbers and they are not good.

            And as for the members forum. Ha!

            Now, off you pop. There's a good chap.
            Funny that. The MF contains two "traditional" contractors, the rest of them are the dreaded freelances of various flavours. Wonder where they found them, since the MF has to be drawn from the membership...

            And FTAOD, I don't think the MF is working as advertised either, but that is rather besides the point.
            Blog? What blog...?

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              #56
              Originally posted by malvolio View Post
              Funny that. The MF contains two "traditional" contractors, the rest of them are the dreaded freelances of various flavours. Wonder where they found them, since the MF has to be drawn from the membership...
              There have always been a variety of non-IT contracting members. You know this, so I can only assume that you are being deliberately obtuse. My point is the net inflow of members is negative. These shiny, new make-up vlogers and part-time waiters cannot make up for the traditional IT and engineering contractors that are retiring and/or leaving in their droves.
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                #57
                Originally posted by wattaj View Post
                There have always been a variety of non-IT contracting members. You know this, so I can only assume that you are being deliberately obtuse. My point is the net inflow of members is negative. These shiny, new make-up vlogers and part-time waiters cannot make up for the traditional IT and engineering contractors that are retiring and/or leaving in their droves.
                No it can't. But i struggle to make that a reason for telling people that its not worth joining IPSE...
                Blog? What blog...?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                  Except they are joining. Look at who is on the MF...
                  Originally posted by wattaj View Post
                  No. No they're not. As you know, I have seen the numbers and they are not good.
                  Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                  The MF contains two "traditional" contractors, the rest of them are the dreaded freelances of various flavours. Wonder where they found them, since the MF has to be drawn from the membership...
                  Originally posted by wattaj View Post
                  There have always been a variety of non-IT contracting members. You know this, so I can only assume that you are being deliberately obtuse. My point is the net inflow of members is negative. These shiny, new make-up vlogers and part-time waiters cannot make up for the traditional IT and engineering contractors that are retiring and/or leaving in their droves.
                  Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                  No it can't. But i struggle to make that a reason for telling people that its not worth joining IPSE...
                  I am SOOO bored of this constant tulipe from you. The constant dancing around trying to score a winning point by obfuscation and bloody-minded blah-blah-blah. Just **** off. I'm done.
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by wattaj View Post
                    Just **** off. I'm done.
                    The best thing about the IPSE forums is the 'friendly' rating

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                      No it can't. But i struggle to make that a reason for telling people that its not worth joining IPSE...
                      Any idea what the reasons are that does make it worth joining IPSE?
                      Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                      I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

                      I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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