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    Client refuses to sign my timesheets

    Hi everyone,

    I read this forum for some time period, but never wrote a post. Now I am in a bit hard situation and not sure if you are able to help somehow?

    - Cooperation with my client never went in a good way, I have been stalked by the agency and get signs of mobbing from my project manager
    - I did receive interesting offer from another agency on 18th of July to provide some contract for public sector
    - I did write notice on 19th July I will be with Client for two more weeks up to 2nd August to make handover and finish what they needed
    - I was thinking to start on 6th August a new contract, but new agency started pushing on me to start earlier
    - As I saw in the contract I am able to work on different contracts and projects when I am with existing one so I decided to finish handover on 31st July and say I am off next two days (1st and 2nd Aug).
    - I started a new contract on the 1st of August, not showing anymore in Client's office
    - I created timesheets covering days where I was with Client (29, 30, 31 July) only on Friday, 2nd of August
    - Client is now avoiding to sing timesheets, my project manager blocked my phone number, agency keep saying I breached contract
    - I clearly don't see anything wrong in what I did, especially regarding how they treat me there. I also requested only to be paid for days where was with them only as it is in the contract
    - I did email exchange with my project manager (not responding), agency, but not too much info and finally as advised by Client's HR - where I heard I will hear some more later today, but trying to get any further information I only received information, person responsible for HR stuff is off afternoon - no response as promised, even if they verbally agreed to my situation

    I am not sure if I should escalate it higher to Client's CEO, o request some law advise and just call them into the court. I am trying to be transparent with you, but do you think I should be paid and fight for my timesheets?

    #2
    A general principle. If you did the work you're entitled to be paid. Are you opted in, or opted out of agency regs?

    Send your invoice for the unpaid/unsigned days to the agency anyway. When/if they don't pay it, start dunning. How much are you owed?
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #3
      Pretty common topic on here so there are plenty of good threads for you to read. All will give exactly the same answer as NAT as it's pretty black and white. You worked it, you are legally entitled, client is pissed off and is being an arse. Happens a lot. The threads below will detail the steps you need to follow.

      sign timesheets site:forums.contractoruk.com - Google Search

      Couple of interesting points to consider though..

      I was thinking to start on 6th August a new contract, but new agency started pushing on me to start earlier
      So what. They've picked you and if they don't like it they'll have to cancel your contract, hope the second guy is still available, go through the whole process again. There is plenty of reasons to delay as well. You should have got your new contract checked by a contractor specialist which can take up to 5 days as well so assume you've not done this either. Upshot is it's more effort to go find someone else that it is to delay start by a week. Agent only wants you onboard to start earning his crust faster. I am sure the client doesn't mind. Don't fall for the agents pressure. It suits them and no one else.
      - As I saw in the contract I am able to work on different contracts and projects when I am with existing one so I decided to finish handover on 31st July and say I am off next two days (1st and 2nd Aug).
      Did you decide or did you discuss and agree this with the client. You can't decide what you fancy doing and then bugger off. That's never going to end well.

      And you just can't decide you are unavailable the last 2 days. By starting at the new gig you are in breach of your old one. Just because you can work for other clients it doesn't mean you can start a new full time one before the old full time one has ended. You've bent that clause beyond recognition so I'd say if you went legal you would be in breach. While you are in a contract there are certain obligations to do work and to get paid. You've effectively ended the old contract before notice is up.
      - I started a new contract on the 1st of August, not showing anymore in Client's office
      So you just did what you want and didn't show up again? As per the last question, did you negotiate this with the old client or did you just disappear?
      - I created timesheets covering days where I was with Client (29, 30, 31 July) only on Friday, 2nd of August
      Depending on the answers to the questions above you can see why they aren't happy with this.

      Read the threads in the link, do what they advise and hope it works. They could decide to sue you for breach and loss of income but the bottom line is they cannot hold money back. They have to pay you and THEN sue.
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        #4
        Client is not going to pay for rubbish service / hopefully they won’t ask for money back


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          #5
          Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
          Client is not going to pay for rubbish service / hopefully they won’t ask for money back


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          Harsh
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            #6
            A sign of professionalism is a signed timesheet.

            Looks like a Mexican stand-off. OP deciding to sue for not being paid the three days. Client deciding to sue for not getting the final two days. Result: Stalemate.

            Who blinks first? One option is for OP to offer to do the final two days if client feels they need that additional time for handover, so all obligations can be met in a satisfactory way. While there is a risk the client would then withhold payment for 5 days instead of 3, there would be more weight on getting paid having shown you did what you were expected in the contract so less argument from client's management or a tribunal/court.
            Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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              #7
              Not sure I could be bothered for 3 days money. You have a good case. But getting it enforced could be problematic. I hope you get the money.

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                #8
                I'd just dun it to the small claims court. Chances are the agency will cave. The process isn't difficult.
                Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  I'd just dun it to the small claims court. Chances are the agency will cave. The process isn't difficult.
                  This. If the agency say you have breached contract, let them sue.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                    I'd just dun it to the small claims court. Chances are the agency will cave. The process isn't difficult.
                    as long as OP has evidence of working the 3 days.
                    No point embarassing yourself in court without it.
                    See You Next Tuesday

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