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    Quote Originally Posted by cannon999 View Post
    What do you mean, they provide a test environment? If I am developing software for a mobile device - I have to make sure it works on actual devices. Simulators are NOT the same (although these can also be used for testing).
    So exactly how many different android phones are you going to buy?

    Even large firms use simulators as they can't manage to test all the variations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    So exactly how many different android phones are you going to buy?

    Even large firms use simulators as they can't manage to test all the variations.
    It's been 5+ years since I have developed for it but I remember writing software for iPad and the simulator sucked. Would have issues on iPad that didn't occur on the simulator. Performance was not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    So exactly how many different android phones are you going to buy?

    Even large firms use simulators as they can't manage to test all the variations.
    As many as required?

    Sorry, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Any large firm that wants to properly support all devices WILL NOT use simulators because they are just that - simulators. They are fine for development but are not suitable for testing the end product. And yes - they will have every type of device available for the testing team, sometimes going back 5-6 years. I have had plenty of experiences where something would work on a simulator but not on the actual device (yes I am talking about browserstack) and the other way round. And also had a lot of joy debugging issues that occured on some random version of IOS however if the marketing team sees that there are sales going through with that device then software must work for that device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannon999 View Post
    As many as required?

    Sorry, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Any large firm that wants to properly support all devices WILL NOT use simulators because they are just that - simulators. They are fine for development but are not suitable for testing the end product. And yes - they will have every type of device available for the testing team, sometimes going back 5-6 years. I have had plenty of experiences where something would work on a simulator but not on the actual device (yes I am talking about browserstack) and the other way round. And also had a lot of joy debugging issues that occured on some random version of IOS however if the marketing team sees that there are sales going through with that device then software must work for that device.
    Well the only person talking about app development is you - everyone else was talking about a mobile phone for using it to take phone calls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    Well the only person talking about app development is you - everyone else was talking about a mobile phone for using it to take phone calls.
    I am just explaining how pretty much any IT contractor can very easily explain a purchase of a mobile device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannon999 View Post
    I am just explaining how pretty much any IT contractor can very easily explain a purchase of a mobile device.
    Nope a very limited proportion of IT contractors could use that justification (most people here aren't mobile developers) and even then they would need to demonstrate a need for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    Nope a very limited proportion of IT contractors could use that justification (most people here aren't mobile developers) and even then they would need to demonstrate a need for it.
    Don't have to be a mobile developer. Just have to write software for web. All websites must work on mobile devices nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannon999 View Post
    Don't have to be a mobile developer. Just have to write software for web. All websites must work on mobile devices nowadays.
    Not every contractor writes software for the web.

    And even if they do they don't necessarily do stuff that is directly related to the user interface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not every contractor writes software for the web..
    I'd argue it's actually a fairly low percentage so cannon is a bit of the mark here. He's not making a very good catchall argument... which is the problem with catchall arguments.
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