Contractor with company for over 4 years... any obligation to make me permanent?

**malvolio** · 24 February 2011, 18:38

Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post

Quick question..
I started this contract in Jan 2007, initially it was a 6 month rolling contract that kept getting renewed.
Last July it was renewed for a year.

I work through an umbrella and always have, although im a contractor it's not a temporary job it's an ongoing desktop support role and we're busier than ever. I work with 2 guy's that are permanent, get paid a bit more than me, get 6 weeks holiday a year and get loads of company benefits.

Is the company under no obligation to take me on as a permie after a certain period?

No. You're a contractor. If there were any such "obligation" it would have applied from day one.

However you have to ask why you're staying if you're getting less than the permies...

**TheAnalyst** · 24 February 2011, 18:40

Originally posted by malvolio View Post

No. You're a contractor. If there were any such "obligation" it would have applied from day one.

However you have to ask why you're staying if you're getting less than the permies...

Fair enough.
I'm staying because it pays a hell of a lot more than anything else the same that I've seen in the last year at least.

**Wanderer** · 24 February 2011, 20:39

Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post

I work with 2 guy's that are permanent, get paid a bit more than me, get 6 weeks holiday a year and get loads of company benefits. Is the company under no obligation to take me on as a permie after a certain period?

No, but if I were you I'd be asking for a permie job and a pay rise!

**TykeMerc** · 24 February 2011, 21:09

The client has absolutely no obligation to you, for that matter you're working there as the full time employee of your Umbrella. Your situation as far as the client in concerned is very little different than if you were a full time employee of IBM and on site.

Your rate is a matter for you to negotiate, the one advantage you had is you could expense a fair few things until you hit the two year rule.

**Waldorf** · 25 February 2011, 08:16

Four years through an umbrella

Whilst I do not know your rate, I would have thought you would gain if you switched to a limited company.

**ChimpMaster** · 25 February 2011, 11:16

Originally posted by Waldorf View Post

Four years through an umbrella

Whilst I do not know your rate, I would have thought you would gain if you switched to a limited company.

Probably not by much if his "salary"

is less than £43k (or whatever the magic number is now).

**Clare@InTouch** · 25 February 2011, 12:03

Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post

Probably not by much if his "salary"

is less than £43k (or whatever the magic number is now).

You can gain on around £35k, so possibly still worth considering.

**Support Monkey** · 25 February 2011, 14:17

I did very nicely thank you on less than that going via limited a few years back now but the benefits far outweighted the disadvantages especially paying low wage and dividends and even the small VAT amout makes it worth it and going forward all was in place when the bigger and better contracts came along, if your going to be contracting for more than 12 months i say go limited

Several people said to me (public sector) even the management people that there was a 2 year rule and they would have to take me on after this point, i think this may have been the case for some temps placements years ago but there is no such rule now

**singhr** · 25 February 2011, 14:27

Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post

Quick question..
I started this contract in Jan 2007, initially it was a 6 month rolling contract that kept getting renewed.
Last July it was renewed for a year.

I work through an umbrella and always have, although im a contractor it's not a temporary job it's an ongoing desktop support role and we're busier than ever. I work with 2 guy's that are permanent, get paid a bit more than me, get 6 weeks holiday a year and get loads of company benefits.

Is the company under no obligation to take me on as a permie after a certain period?

Not the sharpest sockie in the toolshed are you

Contractor with company for over 4 years... any obligation to make me permanent?