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    Afternoon,

    I've got a contract in Munich and I'm pretty sure it's going to be a tad chilly in winter!
    I'm lining up a place to rent for the 4 month duration.
    Next on the list is making my car winter proof.

    Can I claim winter tyres as an expense?
    I wouldn't be in Munich if it wasn't for the contract.
    I definately wouldn't buy winter tyres in the UK.
    The "wholey for business" is obviously a sticking point, since I would be driving the car all over the shop when in Munich.
    But it's quite a lot of money for tyres and would completely write off the puney 45p/mile mileage claim.

    Anyone successfully claimed for these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    Afternoon,

    I've got a contract in Munich and I'm pretty sure it's going to be a tad chilly in winter!
    I'm lining up a place to rent for the 4 month duration.
    Next on the list is making my car winter proof.

    Can I claim winter tyres as an expense?
    I wouldn't be in Munich if it wasn't for the contract.
    I definately wouldn't buy winter tyres in the UK.
    The "wholey for business" is obviously a sticking point, since I would be driving the car all over the shop when in Munich.
    But it's quite a lot of money for tyres and would completely write off the puney 45p/mile mileage claim.

    Anyone successfully claimed for these?
    Anyone can successfully claim for them. The real question is whether anyone has successfully defended it against a challenge from HMRC. And my guess would be no - as you point out, they wouldn't be wholly and exclusively for the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    Afternoon,

    I've got a contract in Munich and I'm pretty sure it's going to be a tad chilly in winter!
    I'm lining up a place to rent for the 4 month duration.
    Next on the list is making my car winter proof.

    Can I claim winter tyres as an expense?
    I wouldn't be in Munich if it wasn't for the contract.
    I definately wouldn't buy winter tyres in the UK.
    The "wholey for business" is obviously a sticking point, since I would be driving the car all over the shop when in Munich.
    But it's quite a lot of money for tyres and would completely write off the puney 45p/mile mileage claim.

    Anyone successfully claimed for these?
    Is the car you are driving a company car? In that case, I would claim the expense. If the car is for personal use and for commute to a place of business, I would not bother claiming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tranceporter View Post
    Is the car you are driving a company car? In that case, I would claim the expense. If the car is for personal use and for commute to a place of business, I would not bother claiming.
    If it's a company car, then it's a valid expense.

    If it's not, then you can claim it but will need to declare it on your P11D as a benefit in kind.
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    Don't know about Munich, but if you're claiming the normal 45p private mileage expenses that's meant to cover all your motoring costs. You can't go adding extra stuff on top, otherwise you'd be able to claim "wholly for business" petrol and that would be silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    Afternoon,

    I've got a contract in Munich and I'm pretty sure it's going to be a tad chilly in winter!
    I'm lining up a place to rent for the 4 month duration.
    Next on the list is making my car winter proof.

    Can I claim winter tyres as an expense?
    I wouldn't be in Munich if it wasn't for the contract.
    I definately wouldn't buy winter tyres in the UK.
    The "wholey for business" is obviously a sticking point, since I would be driving the car all over the shop when in Munich.
    But it's quite a lot of money for tyres and would completely write off the puney 45p/mile mileage claim.

    Anyone successfully claimed for these?
    If it isn't a company car then the costs would not be allowed.

    On the plus side, I've heard Oktoberfest is amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin at NixonWilliams View Post
    If it isn't a company car then the costs would not be allowed.

    On the plus side, I've heard Oktoberfest is amazing!

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    I don't think I can claim for beer as an expense

    It's my own car. So the consensus is no. The 45p/mile pays for wear and tear, not an additional set of tyres and storage of the summer ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    I don't think I can claim for beer as an expense

    It's my own car. So the consensus is no. The 45p/mile pays for wear and tear, not an additional set of tyres and storage of the summer ones.
    Yes 45p covers your motoring costs - the tyres themselves could not be claimed because of 'duality of purpose'
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrylmg View Post
    ...The 45p/mile pays for wear and tear...
    No. It pays for all motoring costs. (Well, obviously, it doesn't because it's far too law, but in HMRC's minds, it does).

    The extra cost of winter tyres is in fact just the cost of storage + cost of fitting. If you drive on one set of tyres in summer and another in winter, then your tyres will last twice as long. TBH, if I was living in the UK (having got used to switching tyres October and April, and got used to the better handling), I'd have winter/summer tyres anyway. Winter tyres are not just for snow, they give better performance whenever the temperature is low.
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