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    Anyone here understand statistics?

    BBC News - Do doctors understand test results?

    Are doctors confused by statistics? A new book by one prominent statistician says they are - and that this makes it hard for patients to make informed decisions about treatment.



    Where is sasguru when you need someone to pretend to understand. Then call everyone a cretin.

    #2
    don't say his name three times!
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #3
      That's a matter of probability. But there's only a 10% chance of that.
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #4
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        don't say his name three times!
        Have to watch that movie now.
        "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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          #5
          Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
          BBC News - Do doctors understand test results?

          Are doctors confused by statistics? A new book by one prominent statistician says they are - and that this makes it hard for patients to make informed decisions about treatment.
          Not all patients.

          Some are like Sas................
          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #6
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

            Some are like Sas................
            twice - stop now!!!
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #7
              That article makes it seem the tests are crap, but it's half a story:

              In the example The Positive predictive value= approx 10% or 1 in 10

              However the Negative predictive value for the example is near 100%


              In summary you can have low confidence that a positive result is true BUT high confidence a negative is true. Get tested negative you can be almost certain it's correct. Get tested positive, you may have the disease but most probably not, certainly worth further medical investigation to confirm.
              Last edited by ZARDOZ; 7 July 2014, 12:25.

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                Originally posted by ZARDOZ View Post
                That article makes it seem the tests are crap, but it's half a story:

                In the example The Positive predictive value= approx 10% or 1 in 10

                However the Negative predictive value for the example is near 100%


                In summary you can have low confidence that a positive result is true BUT high confidence a negative is true. Get tested negative you can be almost certain it's correct. Get tested positive, you may have the disease but most probably not, certainly worth further medical investigation to confirm.
                Should just use AVG Free and hope for false positives then and cut out the middleman.

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