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Board Game Geek
26th May 2005, 12:00
Ok...here's the situation.

The contract being offered is "sort of 3 months to sort of 6 months", sort of.

That doesn't really help, since I may have another role coming up in 4 months.

If this current contract was 3 months, then fine...month in the private villa with the girls in Hawaii.

What concerns me, is that they'll nail it down to 4 months or more, and then the other contract comes up and I miss the boat.

Is there a way to jump ship in these circumstances ?

The current contract is just a support role, and there are plenty of warm bodies to fill it if I left...they'd have someone within a day I reckon.

I've never been in this position before, and wouldn't normally consider the practice, but as I've got older and more cynical, I've realised that only one person really counts in all of this and that's me and my family.

Should I just tell the agent that I've got something in the pipeline, so he will understand and appreciate my honesty and cater for my needs accordingly, or am I being hopelessly naive ?

I did try to apply the principle WWJD to this dilemma, but I am not a Xian, and besides, I don't think there were IT Contractors around in his day. Apart from some members of this board. :D

Mordac
26th May 2005, 12:04
"sort of 3 months to sort of 6 months"

Wait and see what the contract actually says before you say anything to the pimp.
If it's 3 months, then fine. If it's longer, then you have a decision to make.
You might be able to invoke your substitution clause. ;)

Ivor bigun
26th May 2005, 12:05
Live month to month. don't tell...
Anything can happen!

TonyEnglish
26th May 2005, 12:05
"I've realised that only one person really counts in all of this and that's me and my family"

That is more than one person.

Why not ask the client for an end date. Tell them you were thinking of booking a holiday (or had already done so) and so wanted a definite point where you would be free. That way he won't know it is because you have something better to go for.

xoggoth
26th May 2005, 12:05
But surely it's standard practice for initial period of 3 months contractually? Anyhow, you could always stop pretending to be a normal person when you want to leave.

rebekkaloos
26th May 2005, 12:14
it's probably in the interest of the client to only tie you in for 3 months initially, so that's what they'll probably do anyway (in case the project / role finishes earlier than they thought)

And then you can refuse any offered extension

Board Game Geek
26th May 2005, 12:15
stop pretending to be a normal person when you want to leave

Problem is Xog, I've never really started. I just can't get the hang of it.

How on earth you poor humans with your frail and oddly-shaped bodies (especially the pics of Threaded which remind me of when our race came to Earth through a worm-hole and encounted the point of singularity) manage to survive is beyond me.

And what is it with having only 2 arms ?

8 are much more efficient and practical, especially when using the MS Natural Keyboard (which one of our kind invented actually).

Don't get me started on orifii. You have far to few to be of any use at a Rigellian Flesh Party.

Still it's better than having just one like the Zootan's (and of course the being you call "Chico".)

Probably explains why everything that comes out of his mouth is waste refuse.

MilanB
26th May 2005, 12:17
BGG,

with respect,

at fecking last...

'as I've got older and more cynical, I've realised that only one person really counts in all of this and that's me and my family'

Milan.

BlasterBates
26th May 2005, 12:18
No problem BBG. Sign up for 3 months, then review it. Maybe the new contract in 4 months might disappear, so don't just sit around waiting.

Don't tell them you're going to bugger off, tell them that when you have the second contract.

Board Game Geek
26th May 2005, 12:20
realised that only one person really counts in all of this and that's me and my family'

As someone pointed out....that's technically more than one.

However, they do live within a mucus-lined pouch in my lower abdomen, hence the use of the singular.

Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. I thought everybody did the same. Obviously not ! LOL!

Board Game Geek
26th May 2005, 12:22
Many thanks for the advice folks.

<bows respectfully>

Ivor bigun
26th May 2005, 12:26
So BGG, only interested - what are you going to do?

Board Game Geek
26th May 2005, 12:32
Server/Network support, for my sins.

PracticalObjects
26th May 2005, 12:39
Just get a notice clause put into the contract, 1month from them or 1 month from you. Then take it or leave it as it works out but just remember then they can do the same to you.

The only problem is that having a notice period is seen by the IR as decreasing the "business risk" of the contract, and is one of the factors that can be used to point to disguised employment.

terotech
26th May 2005, 12:56
Okay, I really couldn't resist a reply to this thread:

If you don't already have a notice clause in your contract then you are obliged to stay (unless you go bankrupt or die of some terrible illness etc.). If there already is a notice clause then you can invoke that.

The thing to consider is "what would the agent/client do if they were in my shoes" - I think you'll find that the answer corresponds to "fook you right over and take the money"

D

hattra
26th May 2005, 13:36
If they can't decide whether its a three or six month contract, take the initiative and offer them a three month contract followed by monthly renewals "so that they can retain maximum flexibility".

SupremeSpod
26th May 2005, 21:32
Re: How do you leave a contract early ?

By laying a great big turd on the board room table.

Spod - In "Next question?" mode.

threaded
26th May 2005, 21:53
Spod:

By laying a great big turd on the board room table.
Yeah, we've seen your code.

SupremeSpod
27th May 2005, 06:51
Yeah, we've seen your code.

Threaded:

No you haven't! Although as have millions of others, you've probably at some time used it without knowing!

threaded
27th May 2005, 10:02
Spodly: You're not off on one of your fairy tales again by any chance? :\

Lucifer Box
27th May 2005, 10:04
You're not off on one of your fairy tales again by any chance?
I think we have a bit of a pot / kettle issue there, Threaded old boy.