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vetran
12th August 2014, 15:51
Osborne's plan to make 250,000 migrant workers pay tax - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11028013/Osbornes-plan-to-make-250000-migrant-workers-pay-tax.html)


Up to a quarter of a million European migrants will pay tax in Britain for the first time, under plans being prepared by George Osborne, the Telegraph can reveal.
Temporary workers from the European Union will be stripped of the right to use the £10,000 tax-free personal allowance under Treasury proposals.
It means that up to 250,000 labourers, agricultural workers, cleaners and bar staff from the EU working in Britain who currently earn less than £10,000 will pay tax on their earnings for the first time.
It means that, in effect, they will earn 20 per cent less than their UK counterparts who will be able to keep all of their earnings below the personal allowance.

a good idea or a mess?

tractor
12th August 2014, 15:54
Osborne's plan to make 250,000 migrant workers pay tax - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11028013/Osbornes-plan-to-make-250000-migrant-workers-pay-tax.html)



a good idea or a mess?

He will bring it in, lose at the ECHR then remove EVERYONE'S tax allowance so we are all equal again and tell us what a success he is.

CloudWalker
12th August 2014, 15:57
UKIP! :tongue

SueEllen
12th August 2014, 16:03
UKIP! :tongue

And split the Tory vote so Labour win.

Batcher
12th August 2014, 16:33
The government won't be allowed to discriminate under European rules so we will end up paying the tax back plus compensation to the migrants

tomtomagain
12th August 2014, 16:54
The government won't be allowed to discriminate under European rules so we will end up paying the tax back plus compensation to the migrants

It's only "fair".

SueEllen
12th August 2014, 17:17
The government won't be allowed to discriminate under European rules so we will end up paying the tax back plus compensation to the migrants

They are trying to win votes.

Unfortunately for them the UK population isn't that stupid and know it will end up in the European Courts - plus we would like our fruit, vegetables and flowers picked not left to rot in the fields.

SueEllen
12th August 2014, 17:19
Isn't it odd.

How does such a feckwhit become Chancellor?

It's beyond comprehension.


Who you know and are related to, rather than what you know.



Then again, how the feck did CMD become PM?

Doesn't the Tory party have someone with some talent other than being a Bliar clone?

Yeah but they worked out that they wouldn't win the last election.

Old Greg
12th August 2014, 17:37
Will this apply to UK citizens returning from overseas? What about Irish citizens?

SpontaneousOrder
12th August 2014, 18:23
So presumably the national minimum wage isn't in place to protect the vulnerable from being 'exploited'? As otherwise the implication is that gov is perfectly happy to see foreigners 'exploited' on british soil.

In fact this is even worse - it's the government doing the 'exploitation' to raise funds.

Can anyone say 'hypocrite'?

xoggoth
12th August 2014, 18:37
The article does say that the change would bring the tax regime into line with much of the EU. If that is true, why should other EU migrants get what Brits there do not? As for exploitation, I think that concept is only applicable when people do not have other choices but they do.

SpontaneousOrder
12th August 2014, 18:43
The article does say that the change would bring the tax regime into line with much of the EU. If that is true, why should other EU migrants get what Brits there do not? As for exploitation, I think that concept is only applicable when people do not have other choices but they do.

Not that I agree with NMW, or that paying market rates is ever exploitation. But...

If these people have other options, then so do native brits.

Zero Liability
12th August 2014, 22:11
It's only "fair".

Yes, and then they can add their stamp of approval to their little sanctimonious pitbull, Hector, going on its next rampage to fill the holes in the "budget" they help keep in perpetual deficit. Spend, tax, borrow, and print, and then whine about people not doing their "patriotic duty" and not paying "enough" tax, and always blame the previous party for the shambles, even if their policies only differ in the details. That's about sums up a PPE course. :D

Mich the Tester
13th August 2014, 06:28
Will this apply to UK citizens returning from overseas? What about Irish citizens?

Expats face £400 million tax raid - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11027075/Expats-face-400-million-tax-raid.html)

Anyone who thinks this is about migrants is a gullible idiot falling straight into the political trap of divide and conquer. This is about poking around at various groups of people to take away tax allowances or slap on extra taxes, because HM Government has been pissing away 104 quid for every 100 quid it recieves for about 100 years now. Thos migrants have a tax allowance to soften the blow of double taxation from countries with which the UK doesn't yet have a double taxation treaty. Osborne is doing exactly the same thing as Brown did to freelancers; hit a minority that can't on its own affect the election results and grab their money. Except now it's worse; he's bullying people who don't have the vote.

He'll be coming for YOUR tax allowance next.

BrilloPad
13th August 2014, 06:39
So presumably the national minimum wage isn't in place to protect the vulnerable from being 'exploited'? As otherwise the implication is that gov is perfectly happy to see foreigners 'exploited' on british soil.


This country has always exploited foreigners. Why should it make any difference if its on UK Soil or not?

Most recently the exploitation of foreigners has only benefited the rich - in fact to the determinent of most of the UK population. Thanks god for cheap beer, flat screen TVs and football.