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scooterscot
13th August 2014, 08:23
Been using it on and off since I started seeking a replacement for dropbox as I've been trying to remove my dependancy on keeping data in the US. Particularly commercially sensitive client data.

Very much like Dropbox, Mozy and all the others. However unlike them the NSA has very little chance of scanning your files using this service. It is based in Norway under Norwegian Privacy laws and Norwegian jurisdiction.

Much speedier than dropbox too.

MicrosoftBob
13th August 2014, 08:39
The only way to keep data secure is to never connect to a network of any kind and never connect any device to it

Relying on anything else to be private is a fools game, especially if you think the US or anyone else will respect Norwegian Privacy laws

scooterscot
13th August 2014, 09:05
The only way to keep data secure is to never connect to a network of any kind and never connect any device to it

Relying on anything else to be private is a fools game, especially if you think the US or anyone else will respect Norwegian Privacy laws

Agreed. However the need exists. Also data held in Norway is unlikely to be so easily accessed as that kept in the US. Especially encrypted data.

minestrone
13th August 2014, 09:17
You need to take the tin foil hat off.

scooterscot
13th August 2014, 09:27
You need to take the tin foil hat off.

As long as I can keep my Faraday underpants.

MicrosoftBob
13th August 2014, 09:58
As long as I can keep my Faraday underpants.

C'mon the reality is more like this

http://www.k-bailey.com/unknownmovies/pictures/thunderpants1.jpg

NickFitz
13th August 2014, 11:22
As GCHQ tap all the routes out of the UK and pass the data to the NSA, you'll need to move to Norway along with your data :ohwell

scooterscot
13th August 2014, 11:40
As GCHQ tap all the routes out of the UK and pass the data to the NSA, you'll need to move to Norway along with your data :ohwell

Ah but I'm not in the UK :O)

In any case communications are encrypted.

NickFitz
13th August 2014, 11:48
Ah but I'm not in the UK :O)


That's cheating :tantrum:



In any case communications are encrypted.

I strongly suspect that to the NSA and GCHQ, that just acts as an indicator of what to look at more closely :D

TheFaQQer
13th August 2014, 11:55
I strongly suspect that to the NSA and GCHQ, that just acts as an indicator of what to look at more closely :D

One of the reasons that MI5 / MI6 / the police weren't in favour of the Digital Economy Act was that they worried that it would encourage more people to use encrypted traffic. Beforehand, if someone was doing something really naughty, then they would be more likely to encrypt the data, so there was a much smaller pool to target. Now, many more people are using encrypted traffic, so the "security services" don't know whether you're doing something really naughty, or just torrenting porn.

stek
13th August 2014, 11:56
Ah but I'm not in the UK :O)

In any case communications are encrypted.

But not the data itself?

scooterscot
13th August 2014, 11:58
That's cheating :tantrum:


I don't believe in no win scenarios

http://s14.postimg.org/m10z6zyvl/st_twok_kirkapple.png

VectraMan
13th August 2014, 12:09
I don't believe in no win scenarios

http://s14.postimg.org/m10z6zyvl/st_twok_kirkapple.png

Hours will seem like days, Jim. Wink wink. It'll be ready in three days. Wink wink.

I hope the encryption is more secure than Spock's best effort.

MicrosoftBob
13th August 2014, 12:25
One of the reasons that MI5 / MI6 / the police weren't in favour of the Digital Economy Act was that they worried that it would encourage more people to use encrypted traffic. Beforehand, if someone was doing something really naughty, then they would be more likely to encrypt the data, so there was a much smaller pool to target. Now, many more people are using encrypted traffic, so the "security services" don't know whether you're doing something really naughty, or just torrenting porn.

So if you were clever you would use steganography to hide something naughty in porn, then when you need to send it, send it as encrypted torrent

NickFitz
13th August 2014, 12:41
So if you were clever you would use steganography to hide something naughty in porn, then when you need to send it, send it as encrypted torrent

Shave a permie's head, tattoo the message on it, wait for the hair to grow back, then tell him the perilous trip across enemy lines is a promotion.

SpontaneousOrder
13th August 2014, 13:09
You need to take the tin foil hat off.

If he ever has to do business with a chinese clientCo, then it might not be tin-foil-hat stuff.