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vetran
17th September 2014, 13:30
Scottish pubs granted special licenses to serve alcohol through referendum night | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759069/This-absolute-madness-Scottish-pubs-granted-special-licenses-serve-alcohol-referendum-night-despite-threat-violence-breaking-out.html)


What could possibly go wrong? Scottish pubs are granted special licences to serve alcohol all through referendum night - despite threat of violence breaking out
Many pubs have been granted late licences to keep serving alcohol throughout the count
Police source criticised the move, saying decision was 'absolute madness'
First results are to be announced at 2am, with last at 6am
Mood in Scotland turning increasingly nasty with threats of bullying and intimidation

NickFitz
17th September 2014, 13:58
"…senior politicians and police officers described the plan for all-night drinking as ‘absolute madness’."

They quote a police officer who has been anonymously quoted in the Times - in other words, they never even spoke to him. But he doesn't use the phrase "absolute madness", or indeed refer to any other kind of madness, in the words attributed to him.

Then they quote two politicians (no indication if these quotes are also lifted from something they read somewhere else), neither of which says anything that could even be misinterpreted as meaning "absolute madness".

And for good measure, they repeat some made-up nonsense about leave being cancelled (no suggestion of where they heard it), while admitting in the same sentence that it's not true.

What a load of utter bollocks. They don't even try to pretend it's journalism any more, do they?

Unix
17th September 2014, 14:08
"…senior politicians and police officers described the plan for all-night drinking as ‘absolute madness’."

They quote a police officer who has been anonymously quoted in the Times - in other words, they never even spoke to him. But he doesn't use the phrase "absolute madness", or indeed refer to any other kind of madness, in the words attributed to him.

Then they quote two politicians (no indication if these quotes are also lifted from something they read somewhere else), neither of which says anything that could even be misinterpreted as meaning "absolute madness".

And for good measure, they repeat some made-up nonsense about leave being cancelled (no suggestion of where they heard it), while admitting in the same sentence that it's not true.

What a load of utter bollocks. They don't even try to pretend it's journalism any more, do they?


Yet you get all the no voters on here quoting this crap as gospel. :laugh

vetran
17th September 2014, 14:14
funny the Police deny a lot of things.

NickFitz
17th September 2014, 14:15
Yet you get all the no voters on here quoting this crap as gospel. :laugh

Earlier on Twitter, someone I follow posted a photo of their car door, which had been keyed last night. So had a number of other cars in the same road, and they were all parked outside houses with "Yes" posters.

But worthless rags like the Mail only report stuff like that if the "Yes" folk do it - we never hear about it when the "No" folk do.

NickFitz
17th September 2014, 14:21
funny the Police deny a lot of things.

Well, if a newspaper makes something up and asks them if it's true, what else are they going to do?

It reminds me of the American presidential campaign in which one candidate told his staff to start a rumour that his opponent, who owned a large farm, was in the habit of having sexual relations with his sows. "For Christ's sake, we can't call him a pig****er!" they said. "No, but we can make him deny it," he replied.

That's standard practice for the Mail: just make some crap up that you want people to believe, then print it along with the denial. It shows the utter contempt they have for their readers that they expect such a transparent ploy to fool them. But it looks like some people still fall for it, and that's why they carry on doing it.

Old Greg
17th September 2014, 16:38
Earlier on Twitter, someone I follow posted a photo of their car door, which had been keyed last night. So had a number of other cars in the same road, and they were all parked outside houses with "Yes" posters.

But worthless rags like the Mail only report stuff like that if the "Yes" folk do it - we never hear about it when the "No" folk do.

It was done by a Yes voter to make the No campaign look bad.

Kind of the opposite of Unix.

Batcher
17th September 2014, 16:55
Kay Burley, after calling the guy 'a bit of a knob' (she took a photo of him and showed it to the camera lol) then said "well, that's two people we've met today who are campaigning against England"

Eh? Has she any idea what the referendum is about? She's meant to be a professional reporting on an historic event and she doesn't even know what it's about !! She made herself look a bit of a knob actually :emb

Flashman
17th September 2014, 17:02
Well, if a newspaper makes something up and asks them if it's true, what else are they going to do?

It reminds me of the American presidential campaign in which one candidate told his staff to start a rumour that his opponent, who owned a large farm, was in the habit of having sexual relations with his sows. "For Christ's sake, we can't call him a pig****er!" they said. "No, but we can make him deny it," he replied.

That's standard practice for the Mail: just make some crap up that you want people to believe, then print it along with the denial. It shows the utter contempt they have for their readers that they expect such a transparent ploy to fool them. But it looks like some people still fall for it, and that's why they carry on doing it.

Well anyway...are the Scottish pubs going to be open all night?

As if tempers weren't running high enough all ready.

Just add alcohol and step back ten paces.


Nice bit of overtime for the police though. Kerching.

OwlHoot
17th September 2014, 17:59
"…senior politicians and police officers described the plan for all-night drinking as ‘absolute madness’."

They quote a police officer who has been anonymously quoted in the Times - in other words, they never even spoke to him. But he doesn't use the phrase "absolute madness", or indeed refer to any other kind of madness, in the words attributed to him.

Then they quote two politicians (no indication if these quotes are also lifted from something they read somewhere else), neither of which says anything that could even be misinterpreted as meaning "absolute madness". ...

Perhaps the police officer actually said "eastbound elm!", and the senior politician added "ass!" :tongue

Old Greg
17th September 2014, 18:03
Well anyway...are the Scottish pubs going to be open all night?

As if tempers weren't running high enough all ready.

Just add alcohol and step back ten paces.


Nice bit of overtime for the police though. Kerching.

Well I trust our Scottish cousins to drink for 18 hours solidly and then end the night in a joyous celebration of democracy, no matter what the outcome.

KentPhilip
17th September 2014, 20:44
Well I trust our Scottish cousins to drink for 18 hours solidly and then end the night in a joyous celebration of democracy, no matter what the outcome.

Exactly.
In fact I think the vote's going to be a No. And then they'll have another referendum in 12 months time, with another 18 hours drinking enjoyed. And then another one 12 months later again, and so on.

You see this is UKIP's real reason for wanting a referendum on membership of the European Union - it's an excuse for a giant pissup :happy