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    Limted company on flat rate scheme

    I have just paid my VAT return at 14.5%, my accountant has told me if I leave 15% in my account it will be more than enough to cover my taxes.
    I don't know how this is possible when I've just paid out 14.5% on my VAT return and I presume I need to pay 20% corporation tax on any profits but I won't need to pay any tax on dividends as I'm on the basic rate.

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    The first thing you should do is ask your accountant how he arrived at that amount and get him to give you a breakdown
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      #3
      Originally posted by Newbie Simon View Post
      I have just paid my VAT return at 14.5%, my accountant has told me if I leave 15% in my account it will be more than enough to cover my taxes.
      I don't know how this is possible when I've just paid out 14.5% on my VAT return and I presume I need to pay 20% corporation tax on any profits but I won't need to pay any tax on dividends as I'm on the basic rate.
      Your accountant needs to explain this to your satisfaction. Ask them for a worked example.

      To be using 15% as a rule of thumb sounds low to me. However remember that 20% CT is on profits after deducting salary, pension, travel and other expenses. The company doesn't ever pay tax on dividends, even if you were personally on the high rate.

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        #4
        Rough

        Roughly as follows:
        £100 Earned
        £20 collected in VAT

        CT £20
        Vat on Flat rate £15

        Left £85
        Thus Liability in Total £15 on £100 earnings or 15%.

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          #5
          Say I take home £100 a week I need to include VAT onto that so my earnings would be £83.34+£16.66 collected in VAT
          CT £16.66
          VAT on flat rate £15

          Left £68.34
          Thus Liability is Total £15 on £83.34 earnings or 18%

          Is this correct ?

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            #6
            £100 + VAT = £120
            Flat rate VAT at 14.5% = £17.40

            That leaves £102.60 which assuming that was all gross profit, would leave you £82.08 after CT so approximately 82% of your daily rate ex. VAT or 68% of your gross turnover.

            In reality you would have tax deductible expenses that would that would reduce your CT bill so I would say put aside 25-30% of your gross turnover.

            OR, forget the guess work and use software gives you a real time indication of your turnover, profit, VAT and CT liabilities. You need to know how much retained profit you have in order to declare a dividend anyway.
            Last edited by TheCyclingProgrammer; 18 October 2014, 09:40.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Newbie Simon View Post
              Say I take home £100 a week I need to include VAT onto that so my earnings would be £83.34+£16.66 collected in VAT
              CT £16.66
              VAT on flat rate £15

              Left £68.34
              Thus Liability is Total £15 on £83.34 earnings or 18%

              Is this correct ?
              If you're taking home £100 a week, then that would be after VAT, tax, expenses etc. have already been deducted. If not, then you're doing it wrong.
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                #8
                Originally posted by TheCyclingProgrammer View Post
                £100 + VAT = £120
                Flat rate VAT at 14.5% = £17.40

                That leaves £102.60 which assuming that was all gross profit, would leave you £82.08 after CT so approximately 82% of your daily rate ex. VAT or 68% of your gross turnover.

                In reality you would have tax deductible expenses that would that would reduce your CT bill so I would say put aside 25-30% of your gross turnover.

                OR, forget the guess work and use software gives you a real time indication of your turnover, profit, VAT and CT liabilities. You need to know how much retained profit you have in order to declare a dividend anyway.
                Is there any free software out there?

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                  #9
                  Best not to count VAT as a true tax, it's more like tax-collected, it was never yours. it was never part of your daily rate, not part of your income figure.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Newbie Simon View Post
                    Is there any free software out there?
                    A spreadsheet?

                    Or stop being a cheapskate and get a FreeAgent, Xero, or Kashflow account (I'd recommend FreeAgent). It will cost you about one day's work.

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