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stek
29th October 2014, 13:12
Thinking about getting one - nothing fancy, not interested in web-browsing on it or even colour or HD, just the one that looks most like a proper white page with black ink and acts most like a proper book!

I'm a technogeek when it comes to most things but not with books, total technophobe....

TheFaQQer
29th October 2014, 13:27
Any of the non-tablet range, since they took away the keyboard.

I'd probably go with the Paperwhite rather than the Voyage if I was buying again - I don't like the idea of a touch screen like the basic one has, and can't see what the Voyage really adds to the Paperwhite.

If you travel a lot, I'd get one with 3G though rather than just wifi.

eek
29th October 2014, 13:31
Thinking about getting one - nothing fancy, not interested in web-browsing on it or even colour or HD, just the one that looks most like a proper white page with black ink and acts most like a proper book!

I'm a technogeek when it comes to most things but not with books, total technophobe....

Your choice is really either the paperwhite or the new voyage.. See Kindle Voyage Review: Amazon (http://online.wsj.com/articles/kindle-voyage-amazons-luxury-e-reader-offers-highest-resolution-1414515719)

its also worth reading Science of Bedtime Reading: Can Tablets and E-Readers Keep You Up? - Personal Tech News - WSJ (http://blogs.wsj.com/personal-technology/2014/10/28/books-tablets-and-e-readers-the-science-of-bedtime-reading/) which explains the current knowledge of science regarding light types and sleep. Especially as when I moved back to separate ipad and kindle e-reader I'm sure I sleep better.

d000hg
29th October 2014, 13:32
The 3G is pretty wonderful at times, although increasingly free WiFi is ubiquitous.

I have the old classic Kindle Keyboard 3g, before they announced touch and paperwhite. I like physical page-turn buttons, works far better when reading in the bath in a sandwich bag :)

eek
29th October 2014, 13:33
Any of the non-tablet range, since they took away the keyboard.

I'd probably go with the Paperwhite rather than the Voyage if I was buying again - I don't like the idea of a touch screen like the basic one has, and can't see what the Voyage really adds to the Paperwhite.

If you travel a lot, I'd get one with 3G though rather than just wifi.

The paperwhite doesn't have any buttons so to move to the next page you need to touch the screen. The voyage re-added the buttons to move to the next / previous page.

stek
29th October 2014, 14:07
I think I'll give the iPad mini a whirl then, with the Kindle app, see how I go with that before splashing out on a another piece of hardware.

TheFaQQer
29th October 2014, 15:07
I think I'll give the iPad mini a whirl then, with the Kindle app, see how I go with that before splashing out on a another piece of hardware.

There's a big difference between reading on a Kindle and reading on a tablet, but a lot comes down to where and when you are likely to read.

Sitting in the sun on the beach reading is a lot easier with an e-reader than a shiny screen for a starter.

TheFaQQer
29th October 2014, 15:09
The 3G is pretty wonderful at times, although increasingly free WiFi is ubiquitous.

I have the old classic Kindle Keyboard 3g, before they announced touch and paperwhite. I like physical page-turn buttons, works far better when reading in the bath in a sandwich bag :)

I have the same model. My sister has a place in France in the middle of nowhere that has no phone or internet and there's no wifi nearby, so 3G has been pretty handy there.

malvolio
29th October 2014, 15:43
Got both tablet and a 3G/WiFi Paperwhite. The latter is the thing for reading with, the tablet is too big, shiny and clunky.

The Paperwhite screen does other things besides change pages - drag down for the main menu, embedded keyboard when you need one, pinch to change font size... Had Kindles of one sort or another since Day 1, this one is the best to date by a country mile.

stek
29th October 2014, 16:09
There's a big difference between reading on a Kindle and reading on a tablet, but a lot comes down to where and when you are likely to read.

Sitting in the sun on the beach reading is a lot easier with an e-reader than a shiny screen for a starter.

Mostly in bed while away from home, maybe on the tube too.

TheFaQQer
29th October 2014, 16:24
Mostly in bed while away from home, maybe on the tube too.

Try the app on a small tablet then :)

Of all the gadgets that I've bought over the years, and there have been more than a few, the Kindle is the one that gets used the most. Now if I could just get my wife to use one, so that I don't have to keep buying a paper copy and a Kindle copy of books...

(I'm tempted to "win" one next time I'm at the UKOUG conference in December so that she has to use one)

darrylmg
29th October 2014, 23:11
Try the app on a small tablet then :)

Of all the gadgets that I've bought over the years, and there have been more than a few, the Kindle is the one that gets used the most. Now if I could just get my wife to use one, so that I don't have to keep buying a paper copy and a Kindle copy of books...

(I'm tempted to "win" one next time I'm at the UKOUG conference in December so that she has to use one)

+1 to this.
I have all my books on my tablet and it goes with me to all my hotels and b&bs and holidays.
Plus if I get board of kindle books, I just open the CUK app and see what the other contractors are moaning about.

Platypus
30th October 2014, 08:17
I barely use my Kindle these days, I use the app on my iPad.

I do take my Kindle on my summer holiday as it works better than the iPad in bright light plus if it gets sand or beer on it, it doesn't matter since it cost so much less then the iPad!

psychocandy
31st October 2014, 11:07
Kindle is brill. Got a Fire non HD one which was pretty cheap.

Used to have a nook and that was truly pants.

Sysman
31st October 2014, 18:15
The 3G is pretty wonderful at times, although increasingly free WiFi is ubiquitous.

I have the old classic Kindle Keyboard 3g, before they announced touch and paperwhite. I like physical page-turn buttons, works far better when reading in the bath in a sandwich bag :)

Do you often take a bath in a sandwich bag?

dundeedude
12th November 2014, 11:51
I may as well propose another solution...

Kobo Glo
Kobo Aura (not the huge HD version, it's huge!)

Both are touchscreen without a keyboard. I use a Kobo Glo because I don't like Amazon (especially their book prices!) at all. You have plenty more options with a Kobo device, such as:

*Buy books from just about anywhere online and place them on the device
*Rent books from your local library and read on the device for 2 or 3 weeks. This uses the 'Overdrive' service, and the availability of books seems to vary wildly between library districts. For example Edinburgh libraries has a huge amount, whereas Perthshire has about half as many books available. I find this quite useful and have requested ebooks to be added that I wanted to read and had them made available within 24 hours, which was quite impressive.
*Upload out of copyright ebooks as required from appropriate projects throughout all the internets.

The Glo is essentially an Amazon Paperwhite in hardware terms but with much less restrictive formats supported - in fact it supports just about anything.

You can manage your ebooks using Calibre (Kindle, Kobo or just about any ebook reader) and I have found it to be invaluable for scheduling download of various magazines that appear to be free, such as The Economist.

I wouldn't bother with using a tablet, phone or computer screen to read books. Although not obvious in the beginning you can cause quite severe eye strain over time. An ebook reader, on the other hand, really is as close to reading paper as possible without using paper. I have the LED backlight down at 1% and it's bright enough for most situations - I've yet to use a brighter setting, although admittedly I've only used it in the UK so far.

d000hg
12th November 2014, 12:03
Although I prefer the real buttons I realised there is a case where it's a PITA. I have been reading a couple of Terry Pratchett books on the Kindle recently and there are so many footnotes, which are not shown at the bottom of the page but at the back of the book... with my Kindle that means moving the cursor to each one and hitting enter to jump to the footnote. Being able to touch the link would be FAR better.

TheFaQQer
12th November 2014, 12:15
Both are touchscreen without a keyboard. I use a Kobo Glo because I don't like Amazon (especially their book prices!) at all.

Apart from the library, where can you legally get eBooks cheaper than Amazon does them? The way that Amazon "negotiates" prices with publishers generally means that Amazon is always going to be the cheapest - or certainly that's what one magazine publisher repeatedly says.

Fishface
14th November 2014, 15:35
they work best with free flowing text - any books with tables or diagrams are not compatible with the black and white versions.

RSoles
14th November 2014, 20:21
I have had two kobos, I liked them, but the wife managed to break both their screens.
I agree that any books with technical diagrams or photos are pretty poor on a Kindle ( I have a fire hd).

d000hg
17th November 2014, 09:53
By the way, I've seen the Kindle Paperwhite on Groupon for £90 a couple of times recently.

eek
17th November 2014, 09:56
By the way, I've seen the Kindle Paperwhite on Groupon for £90 a couple of times recently.

It's only £99 from Amazon at the moment and that includes their support...

d000hg
17th November 2014, 12:10
It's only £99 from Amazon at the moment and that includes their support...If you buy it from a 3rd party I'm sure you'd still get Amazon support but yes it is currently cheap on Amazon. But it wasn't when I saw the same offer last week.