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Migrants have no rights to benefits

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    Migrants have no rights to benefits

    Catchy subject title, eh? Should appeal to the Mail readers here, anyway, it's true and the EU said so although this is in Germany but the UK should take note and if it doesn't follow then you can only blame your own government:

    European court: Germany can deny benefits to jobless EU immigrants | News | DW.DE | 11.11.2014

    European court benefits ruling actually bolsters EU freedom of movement | Law | The Guardian

    Update: Immigrants from other EU nations can be refused unemployment benefits under certain conditions, the Court of Justice of the European Union decided on Tuesday.

    Judges at the Luxembourg court were asked to decide whether Germany could refuse 'Hartz IV' unemployment benefits to so-called 'poverty migrants' under certain conditions.

    The case was prompted after a Romanian woman living in Leipzig was denied benefits by the local Jobcenter. Officials said she refused to take any of the jobs that were suggested to her.

    Both the Jobcenter and a court in Leipzig agreed that 25-year-old Elisabeta Dano, who moved to Germany in 2010 to live with her sister, had never really been looking for work.

    But she appealed her case all the way to the European Court.

    Now the EU court has said that states must have the right to refuse social benefits to unemployed migrants.

    The judges wrote that Dano did not have “sufficient means of support" for herself and her 10-year-old son when she moved to Germany, and therefore couldn't justify her right to remain.

    That also meant that she couldn't bring a case against the authorities based on EU anti-discrimination rules.

    "This judgement will hinder the misuse of social benefits and shuts the door to those who only come to Germany to get money from our benefits system," Christian Democratic Union General Secretary Peter Tauber told The Local.

    "The CDU is for free movement of people within the EU, and the judgement doesn't limit that.

    "And it's still not at issue that any European citizen who lives in Germany, has worked here and lost their job has a claim to social benefits."

    As in other European countries, some Germans have warned of the risks of 'benefit tourism' from Bulgaria and Romania since their citizens gained freedom of movement at the beginning of 2014.

    By September, there were 32,000 more Bulgarians in Germany than the previous year at almost 175,000, while the number of Romanians increased by almost 82,000 to 338,000.

    But they were a small fraction of the total foreign-born population of almost eight million people.
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

    #2
    Yeah heard the ruling.

    Very amusing considering the UK press have said that the Germans have stated the opposite.

    I'm also aware that some other EU countries have been playing by that rule for years due to the stories I've been told.....
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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      #3
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
      Yeah heard the ruling.

      Very amusing considering the UK press have said that the Germans have stated the opposite.

      I'm also aware that some other EU countries have been playing by that rule for years due to the stories I've been told.....
      Most have, in fact it is pretty much EU law:

      The court found that EU regulations require that immigrants without an source of income have "sufficient resources of their own" in their first five years they spend in a different member state.
      "A member state must ... have the possibility of refusing to grant social benefits to economically inactive union citizens who exercise their right to freedom of movement solely in order to obtain another member state's social assistance," a statement released by the court said.
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #4
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        Most have, in fact it is pretty much EU law
        UKIP and the anti-European Tories blame the EU for what is actually the fault of UK politicians and UK civil servants.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #5
          Bloody benefit claiming migrants
          Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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            #6
            Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
            oh look trees and straw!
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #7
              if this is true then why are the Tories not pointing it out?
              Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                #8
                Most have, in fact it is pretty much EU law
                Indeed. No idea why it was never applied.
                bloggoth

                If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                  #9
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                  Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                  if this is true then why are the Tories not pointing it out?
                  Because the systems that underpin the services are so good that they could easily accomodate a big change?

                  Because IDS is the friend of the poor?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tractor View Post
                    Because the systems that underpin the services are so good that they could easily accomodate a big change?

                    Because IDS is the friend of the poor?
                    He is more of a friend of the poor than any of the labour party with the exception of Frank Field
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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