Har Har

[vetran]

Redmond aims to outshine Eclipse with FREE Visual Studio

Microsoft showered application developers with new tools on Wednesday, including a preview of the next release of Visual Studio and an all new version of the IDE that offers the full flexibility and extensibility of the flagship Visual Studio product, free of charge.

The developer download bonanza was timed to coincide with Redmond's Connect(); virtual event, which is streaming online from New York City on Wednesday and Thursday.

The biggest news for most casual Windows devs will be Visual Studio Community 2013, a brand-new formulation of Microsoft's IDE that is available as a free download, provided you're doing what Redmond terms "non-enterprise development."

Microsoft already offers coders free access to Visual Studio technology in the form of Visual Studio Express. But the Express line has previously been divided into various separate SKUs, depending on which platforms developers want to target. Visual Studio Community takes the features of all of the Express versions and combines them into one.

Oh Well

[d000hg]

VS is already better than Eclipse for C++/C# development and the free Express versions are already brilliant. So this seems wonderful news, the only reason I am still using my full version of VS is so my plugins work.

[VectraMan]

Eclipse reminds me of Visual C++ 1.5, if Visual C++ 1.5 hadn't been as good.

I always wonder why MS charge so much for their development tool when their business is built on selling Windows and the success of Windows is built on the amount of software that's available.

[d000hg]

Agreed. Apple have the right idea I think.

To be fair I do quite like Eclipse but only for pure Java stuff.

[minestrone]

Eclipse is a pile of tulipe but sadly it is the best java IDE. ( Don't be confused by IntelliJ charging, it is full on tulipe as well )

[vetran]

Its christmas

Microsoft .NET released from its Windows chains... but what ABOUT MONO?

Today Microsoft announced that the .NET core framework, which powers web applications using the ASP.NET libraries, will be open source on Windows, Linux and Mac OS X. But what are the implications for Mono, the existing open source project which already provides .NET support on Linux and the Mac?

[minestrone]

Microsoft are all over the shop these days, this new bloke has a whiff of a bungee boss about him.

[minestrone]

I just wish they could spend some time getting onedrive to work.

Saved a word file to my laptop 15 minutes ago and it still has not appeared on my desktop despite a dozen rounds of syncing. Seriously how feckin' hard is it to get this working? They are both on the same network.

[NotAllThere]

Eclipse for ABAP is a massive improvement over the standard ABAP editor.

[SimonMac]

I just wish they could spend some time getting onedrive to work.

Saved a word file to my laptop 15 minutes ago and it still has not appeared on my desktop despite a dozen rounds of syncing. Seriously how feckin' hard is it to get this working? They are both on the same network.

Dropbox is much better, especially with LAN syncing meaning clients on the same network get much faster syncing