They Just Will Not Give Up

[SueEllen]

BBC News - Lee Rigby murder: Killer loses legal challenge

Michael Adebolajo, one of the two men found guilty of killing soldier Lee Rigby in London, has lost a legal challenge against his conviction.

Apparently the judges took 45 seconds to turn down the appeal. So they left the room, shut the door, readjusted their gowns then turned around and came back in.

[eek]

Back in Ye Goode Olde Days, if you lost an appeal, they added a few years on, just to encourage the others.

But then again, in Ye Goode Olde Days, said miscreants would have been hanged 3 weeks after sentence.

The sentences are whole life and 45 years so its extending them is not going to have much impact.

[vetran]

BBC News - Lee Rigby murder: Killer loses legal challenge



Apparently the judges took 45 seconds to turn down the appeal. So they left the room, shut the door, readjusted their gowns, said 'hell no' then turned around and came back in.

ftfy

[MarillionFan]

BBC News - Lee Rigby murder: Killer loses legal challenge



Apparently the judges took 45 seconds to turn down the appeal. So they left the room, shut the door, readjusted their gowns then turned around and came back in.

I'd ship them off to the ISIS headquarters just before Iran nukes it.

[Jubber]

I'd ship them off to the ISIS headquarters just before Iran nukes it.

Really ? Top Beardies .... like their style.

[SueEllen]

The sentences are whole life and 45 years so its extending them is not going to have much impact.

They can be let out on license halfway through their sentences if they are no longer a danger to the public. Since they let an elderly police killer out recently who was serving life, it would be good for at least the one serving 45 years to have years added on.

[VectraMan]

They can be let out on license halfway through their sentences if they are no longer a danger to the public. Since they let an elderly police killer out recently who was serving life, it would be good for at least the one serving 45 years to have years added on.

What's half of a whole life sentence?

Weren't they appealing against the length of their sentences, not the conviction? So why are these murders so much worse than other murders? Was this soldier's life worth much more than other victims?

[Paddy]

What is also concerning is that they get Legal Aid to appeal whereas working Joe has to pay for his defence out of his pocket.

[eek]

They can be let out on license halfway through their sentences if they are no longer a danger to the public. Since they let an elderly police killer out recently who was serving life, it would be good for at least the one serving 45 years to have years added on.

No they can't. On a life sentence the minimum sentence is just that the minimum amount of time they have to serve before they are eligible to visit the parole board. Most sentences are for x months/years with parole board eligibility starting at x/2 or x/3 depending on the crime.

The current sentences are life sentences with one of those people serving 45 years before being eligible for release (which would be under licence as they have been sentenced to life). The other sentence is whole life which means that like Rosemary West he will not ever be released. The parole board cannot do anything.

If you still think things are different please show me something online that confirms anything different from above... But a minimum term is just that. Its the minimum time that has to be served before the parole board can start looking at the prisoner...

[SueEllen]

What's half of a whole life sentence?

They work it out at using an "average" lifespan so it's 25-30 years.

Weren't they appealing against the length of their sentences, not the conviction?

Both. The link has been updated.

So why are these murders so much worse than other murders? Was this soldier's life worth much more than other victims?

The murder of this public servant was linked to an act of terrorism against the state.

The Beeb have missed some stuff out of their report but basically one of the terrorists stated he was a war with the UK state which is why his conviction shouldn't stand.