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    Easter is all about...

    Jesus Christ never existed at all, historian claims

    Oh Dear. Well, we still have Easter eggs and bunnies.
    bloggoth

    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

    #2
    125 historical documents, eh... Wonder if they included Tactitus's Annals and the works of Josephus...
    Blog? What blog...?

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      #3
      I was under the impression that, regardless of whether he was/is the son of God or not, it was pretty much agreed that there was such a person as Jesus.

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        #4
        Considering how long ago it was, how many documents that have survived and can be proven to be from the time Jesus was supposed to be kicking about I'd say it's impossible to do anything but guess. It's not like there are newspapers from the era in question and one man's miracle is another man's fake so apart from the political fuss there's not that much which would have been recorded. The Romans may well have seen it as another sectarian Jewish spat and ignored 95% of it too.

        It's been acknowledged that most of the gospels were written well after the events and there's a fair bit of evidence that they have been tinkered with a fair bit so they can't be termed precise (except by the religious types that take them on face value),

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          #5
          have been tinkered with a fair bit
          Indeed. Same with the Koran, and doubtless other religious texts too. It is even going on today, Turkey revised the Hadith a few years back.

          That's the biggest flaw in religious belief, the number of different religions and the numerous variations within them. They can't all be right. All those "proofs" the religious trot out can't be valid if they all prove different things.

          The idea that god would convey his will to man in this way, by appointing a few human messiahs or prophets to spread it, is absurd. What about those born before the chosen one, those in other countries who died before the message reached them or were taught the wrong beliefs as children? Didn't they matter? Did he never consider his word might be distorted or altered? He is supposed to be omnipotent, a creator of universes, so would he really do such a pathetic job?

          Robert Fisk: After the Arab Spring, an Islamic Awakening? - Robert Fisk - Commentators - The Independent
          BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts
          bloggoth

          If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
          John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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            #6
            One thing that Easter gave us that I do like is hot cross buns. You can buy them all year round now of course.

            Mmmm! Going to warm one up now, Thank you lord!
            bloggoth

            If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
            John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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              #7
              Easter bunnies were pagan until the romans used Christianity to subdue restless natives like in Britain
              Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

              No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                #8
                Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                One thing that Easter gave us that I do like is hot cross buns. You can buy them all year round now of course.

                Mmmm! Going to warm one up now, Thank you lord!
                What about chocolates ...

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                  xoggoth does not exist

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
                    I was under the impression that, regardless of whether he was/is the son of God or not, it was pretty much agreed that there was such a person as Jesus.
                    It is. There are more theologians who've written books about the non-historicity of Jesus than historians, because serious scholarly historians know better.

                    However, writing a book "There was certainly a figure in history named Jesus" is unlikely to attract attention or be bought outside of historical/theological circles. Also, David Fitzgerald is a militant "evangelical" atheist activist, dedicated to the atheist cause, so "he would say that, wouldn't he." He's not a serious historian - just a guy with a BA in history who's decided to write books promoting his cause.

                    Originally posted by zeitghost
                    Why these people can't leave others alone to believe what they like is beyond me.
                    Because they have a deep seated need to convince people that they are right, coupled with an irrational hatred of religion.
                    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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