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Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'

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    Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'

    Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'

    Allegations of severe torture have regularly emerged from Iraq
    Torture may be worse now in Iraq than under former leader Saddam Hussein, the UN's chief anti-torture expert says.

    Manfred Nowak said the situation in Iraq was "out of control", with abuses being committed by security forces, militia groups and anti-US insurgents.

    Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue "often bear signs of severe torture", said the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq in a report.

    The wounds confirmed reports given by refugees from Iraq, Mr Nowak said.

    He told journalists at a briefing in Geneva that he had yet to visit Iraq, but he was able to base his information on autopsies and interviews with Iraqis in neighbouring Jordan.

    "What most people tell you is that the situation as far as torture is concerned now in Iraq is totally out of hand," the Austrian law professor said.

    "The situation is so bad many people say it is worse than it has been in the times of Saddam Hussein," he added.

    Brutal methods

    The UN report says detainees' bodies often show signs of beating using electrical cables, wounds in heads and genitals, broken legs and hands, electric and cigarette burns.

    Bodies found at the Baghdad mortuary "often bear signs of severe torture including acid-induced injuries and burns caused by chemical substances".

    Many bodies have missing skin, broken bones, back, hands and legs, missing eyes, missing teeth and wounds caused by power drills or nails, the UN report says.

    Victims come from prisons run by US-led multinational forces as well as by the ministries of interior and defence and private militias, the report said.

    The most brutal torture methods were employed by private militias, Mr Nowak told journalists.

    The report also says the frequency of sectarian bloodletting means bodies are often found which "bear signs indicating that the victims have been brutally tortured before their extra-judicial execution".

    It concludes that torture threatens "the very fabric of the country" as victims exact their own revenge and fuel further violence.

    Mr Nowak said he would like to visit Iraq in person, but the current situation would not allow him to prepare an accurate report, because it would not be safe to leave Baghdad's heavily guarded Green Zone where the Iraqi government and US leadership are situated.

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    That's after more than 3 years, soon will be close to the time of WW2 and costs are probably already higher ($500 bln and counting).

    And where is cheap oil?

    Best of all - without Saddam to keep Iran in check, the latter is just laughing its way to the bank: they get hard currency for their oil, would have been much better make deal with Saddam and get cheap oil.

    #2
    Blair is a complete fuckwit and should have foreseen this happening.

    On a lighter note, he will die one day and I hope I'm still around to enjoy it!

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      #3
      Torture MAY be worse now
      Since when did the word MAY mean anything other than it MIGHT of happened? Or in anti-anything to do with america speak does the word MAY mean something has been confirmed?

      I mean...thats a bit like saying some of you contractors may actually know what you are talking about at work

      The again, take out all the sh1t carried out by them freedom loving terrorists and I think you will find torture no where near as bad as that under peace loving saddam

      Mailman

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        #4
        That's after more than 3 years, soon will be close to the time of WW2 and costs are probably already higher ($500 bln and counting).

        And where is cheap oil?


        Atw do you think the Millitary Industrial launches war to

        1 Provide Cheap Oil for consumers

        or

        2 Increase the price of oil to create bumper profits for the Oil Industry

        And do you think that the Millitary Industrial complex would

        1 Use as little bombs and ammunitions as possible to preserve human life

        2 Drop as many bombs as possible in order to maximise the defence sectors share price and profits

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          #5
          Originally posted by Mailman
          Since when did the word MAY mean anything other than it MIGHT of happened? Or in anti-anything to do with america speak does the word MAY mean something has been confirmed?

          I mean...thats a bit like saying some of you contractors may actually know what you are talking about at work

          The again, take out all the sh1t carried out by them freedom loving terrorists and I think you will find torture no where near as bad as that under peace loving saddam

          Mailman
          I think we should all b be proud that we can torture better than they can.

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            #6
            1,2 & 2

            Industrial

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              #7
              Under Sadam the Iraqi people were being tortured by a dictatorship. The people today are happy to know they are being tortured by a democratic government and their oil is not being wasted on their third world economy but happy in the knowledge that they get a fair price for their oil in the way of war reparations and protection money so it can be used to fuel the USA.
              "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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                #8
                Originally posted by Paddy
                Under Sadam the Iraqi people were being tortured by a dictatorship. The people today are happy to know they are being tortured by a democratic government and their oil is not being wasted on their third world economy but happy in the knowledge that they get a fair price for their oil in the way of war reparations and protection money so it can be used to fuel the USA.
                Not foregetting they can also freely elect the torturer of their choice.

                Isnt fiefdom and demockracy marvellous!

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                  #9
                  You may be correct about the may mailman but it seems to me that those who claim the moral high ground and set out to liberate others from nasty dictators have a duty to be rather more than "no worse" or "a bit better" than the regime they have ousted. Leaving aside the moral crap, the apparent failure of those in charge to at least control the behaviour of their own ranks is likely to have a significant adverse impact on their success in acheiving the stated aims.
                  bloggoth

                  If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                  John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                    #10
                    I really couldnt give a rats arse about the moral high ground. All Im interested in is winning...and if that means cheating, then so be it!

                    Outside of laalaa land naughty things HAVE always happened in wars...you gotta be some kind of anti-anything to do with america goon to think this is a modern day problem.

                    At times like this I like to apply a healthy does of "sh1t happens"

                    Mailman

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