Dealing with Council Planners

[Troll]

Just got a reply for the pre-application back from the council to develop the family estate oop North

Council conservation jobsworth fookwit objects strongly to the demolition of the decaying mansion so will have to gut and refurb to provide 6 luxury flats

Also tucked away in the response was this little beauty

Housing Provision
As the site area of the plot is more than 0.4 hectares, the Council would need to negotiate for the provision of an appropriate element of the total dwelling provision to be for affordable housing under any future planning application.

The exact level of provision would be determined by local need, site characteristics, general location, site suitability, economics of provision, proximity to local services and facilities, and other planning objectives. However, the general minimum proportion of affordable housing for any site is normally 30%, in accordance with the recommendation of the 2010 Strategic Housing Market Assessment. This proportion relates to the provision of both social rented and/or intermediate housing, as appropriate. In addition, with any future planning application the Council would require the provision of an element of the market housing to be unsubsidised low-cost market housing.

So a sure way of diminishing the value of any luxury development is to force developers to let the lower social orders to live there as well

Also they want

As buildings are proposed to be demolished with any of the three submitted options, a full ecological survey would need to be submitted with any future planning application to ascertain any impact on protected species.

Anyone know a way around this ?

Gotta find the indicative costs to take it to a full planning permission submission - would be for 6 flats, 2 x 5 bed detached and 6 semi detached jobbies + new access roads or sell as is but presumably it's best to sell with full PP to a developer

Jolly exciting stuff !

[MicrosoftBob]

Do it like they do in London, build the affordable housing but out of sight of the main development where never the twain shall meet

[barrydidit]

Split off a separate parcel of land that you can deal with separately. Either by flogging it, or just keeping it registered under a different title number.

[DaveB]

Sell off enough of the land to a partner to get the plot size below the cutoff and put in a speparet application for that under a different title.

[BrilloPad]

Bribe them.

[Support Monkey]

Do what all the Bobs do. slap it up and then ask for retrospective planning when the planner comes calling, they always seem to get away with it especially round my neck of the woods

serious reply: if your not use to big developments or for less hassle split the site into small packages and sell them off with planning permission

[alphadog]

Section 106

Section 106, Reduce the cost of Section 106 Affordable Housing with a viability report - Section 106 Management

[Paddy]

Do what all the Bobs do. slap it up and then ask for retrospective planning when the planner comes calling, they always seem to get away with it especially round my neck of the woods

serious reply: if your not use to big developments or for less hassle split the site into small packages and sell them off with planning permission

Reminds me of my friends leasehold flat in London. the freeholder was refused planning permission to build a rooftop extension. He made numerous re-applications which were refused. he then started building it and the council issued him with a demolition order but the council did not enforce it. He applied for retrospective planning permission, he had many local objections. Despite all the objections, the council officer recommended it to be passed and so it was.

[darmstadt]

I remember a bloke once near where I lived had a spare plot of land next to his house and wanted to build another house on it but planning permission was refused. He still built it but on stilts so it was about 12" above ground. The council couldn't do much about it and the court case dragged on for years, he got permission eventually. Councils can be right idiots sometimes



(* as an aside, my Grandfather was on the planning committee at the time and said go ahead as the plot of land was between two houses in a residential area and the new property would have fit right in with no detrimental effects on anyone)

[Troll]

Been pondering wot to do with the property as an interim solution & checked out Refugee crisis

• own a family-sized rental property in the UK;
• would be prepared to offer it as a home for a Syrian refugee family if it is vacant when there is demand in your area;
• can offer a 3 year tenancy to enable the family to have some stability when they arrive;
• are able rent out the property for the Local Housing Allowance Rate in your area.
• The first 12 months of the rent will be paid for by the European Union under a scheme for placing vulnerable refugees.

I figure the property could easily accommodate 30+ individuals or 6 families but saw the Local Housing Allowance Rate for the area would mean only £600 a week which seems way too light for mansion living