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JB3000
24th August 2015, 19:54
Will the number of contracts that come on the market decrease (and PAYE FTC's increase) if clients are forced to determine IR35 status?

Andrew@HillierHopkins
24th August 2015, 19:56
I'd expect that. End clients won't be willing to take on risk.

BolshieBastard
24th August 2015, 20:36
Will the number of contracts that come on the market decrease (and PAYE FTC's increase) if clients are forced to determine IR35 status?


I'd expect that. End clients won't be willing to take on risk.

No one knows whats going to happen at this stage.

eek
24th August 2015, 20:38
No one knows whats going to happen at this stage.

I'm sure a way will be found. Agents will find a way to work around the rules, salesmen will sell new tax avoidance schemes to the unwary and life will go on....

NibblyPig
24th August 2015, 20:57
I don't see the end client having a choice, if they badly need a dev and the clock is ticking, time is money.

Waldorf
24th August 2015, 22:04
I don't see the end client having a choice, if they badly need a dev and the clock is ticking, time is money.

There will be a battle between the project manager and the person responsible for the client's legal obligations, usually the FD. The FD will always win in this battle.

FK1
24th August 2015, 22:52
Will the number of contracts that come on the market decrease (and PAYE FTC's increase) if clients are forced to determine IR35 status?

Yes, for independent consultants, as clients try to minimise any risk.

And it will damage the flexible workforce badly as almost everything will move to big consultancies.

The certain clients will exercise their power to determine IR35 status but only for the purpose to pay less for more or do not pay at all. Overwise what their point?

TheFaQQer
25th August 2015, 11:31
I don't see the end client having a choice, if they badly need a dev and the clock is ticking, time is money.

Then they'll offer a contract inside IR35 and only inside. If that's all there is on offer then they'll get enough candidates for the role.

LondonManc
25th August 2015, 11:39
They'll offer what they want and the appropriate people will decide to apply or not.

If they want to go outside to attract the best of the best of the best with honours then they'll have a commercial arm to their Human Remains team to handle contract staffing issues.

SussexSeagull
25th August 2015, 17:13
People with more in demand skills will (or at least should) be able to raise rates to compensate.

Clients in less populated areas will have to bite the bullet.

Suspect everyone else will have to take the risk, although I suspect some start ups who need to save money up front might use it as a bargaining chip.

yakitoo
26th August 2015, 08:58
Suspect everyone else will have to take the risk, although I suspect some start ups who need to save money up front might use it as a bargaining chip.

Has anyone tried setting up a partnership agreement with start ups and how feasible would this be in these circumstances?