Really, should this be such a big deal? How does singing a song you don't agree with show respect to anyone? Expecting someone to do so takes away the meaning of the thing in the first place - it's a then merely tradition or a matter of form rather than what is meant to be a heartfelt, passionate declaration.
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Singing the Anthem
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishing -
Originally posted by d000hg View PostReally, should this be such a big deal? How does singing a song you don't agree with show respect to anyone? Expecting someone to do so takes away the meaning of the thing in the first place - it's a then merely tradition or a matter of form rather than what is meant to be a heartfelt, passionate declaration. -
I've never sung it - but then again I'm a total leftie.
But not anti-monarchy, just ambivalent to it.Comment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostYou still singing in church?Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostI'm not entirely sure what question you're asking? I would echo the same thing about people singing hymns in church when they're not believers though... those songs were written to express something. Is that what you meant?Comment
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I must admit I think people at this level of power should be willing to sing it. It takes more effort to abstain than it does to join in so you are making a statement not singing it. It's not really down to a matter of choice, it's a conscious effort to be different.
Many of these things are symbolic and historical but it makes us what we are. If we did stop singing the anthem, waving our flags and being proud of who and what we are where would we be?
Saying that if he doesn't chose to fair enough but he then just has to shoulder the outcry and poor public opinion that comes with it, which to be fair to him he is.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostReally, should this be such a big deal? How does singing a song you don't agree with show respect to anyone? Expecting someone to do so takes away the meaning of the thing in the first place - it's a then merely tradition or a matter of form rather than what is meant to be a heartfelt, passionate declaration.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Just got this from a mate, not sure of it's veracity....
"An eyewitness account from a serving officer
"I would like to mention that during the service at St Paul's today, Jeremy Corbyn stood in dignified silence during the National Anthem, unlike the Secretary of Defence who was busy looking round and trying to catch the cameras. Thank you Jeremy for coming and paying your respects and not show boating and glad handing as Mr Cameron did. A man standing in dignified silence shows greater respect for the fallen than a noisy peacock and the PM and Defence secretary were not dignified.""Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI must admit I think people at this level of power should be willing to sing it. It takes more effort to abstain than it does to join in so you are making a statement not singing it. It's not really down to a matter of choice, it's a conscious effort to be different.
Many of these things are symbolic and historical but it makes us what we are. If we did stop singing the anthem, waving our flags and being proud of who and what we are where would we be?
Saying that if he doesn't chose to fair enough but he then just has to shoulder the outcry and poor public opinion that comes with it, which to be fair to him he is.
Then he'd be accused of hypocrisy.
I think a respectful silence is a valid alternative.Comment
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Originally posted by stek View PostJust got this from a mate, not sure of it's veracity....
"An eyewitness account from a serving officer
"I would like to mention that during the service at St Paul's today, Jeremy Corbyn stood in dignified silence during the National Anthem, unlike the Secretary of Defence who was busy looking round and trying to catch the cameras. Thank you Jeremy for coming and paying your respects and not show boating and glad handing as Mr Cameron did. A man standing in dignified silence shows greater respect for the fallen than a noisy peacock and the PM and Defence secretary were not dignified.""Comment
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