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Scoi
27th October 2015, 12:20
So there's a permie I work with who has some problems with a colleague. Permie, let's call him Steve used to work for Team Leader, Brian, they never got on working together but all seemed good when Steve got promoted lead another team.

Brian is now going round spreading lies, eg. A new permie was hired to replace Steve and during induction had a day with Steve as handover. New guy quit the next day as he realised the career shift was wrong. Brian is telling everyone Steve had a massive argument with new guy.

Loads of other bitching going on about Steve and everyone that Brian doesn't like. Director has said to stop acting like school girls but nothings changed.

No paper or electronic evidence unfortunately. No HR department either. Too many permies afraid of speaking against Brian as he would make their lives miserable if he stayed.

Anyone had a similar experience and know how to sort this out without putting voice recorders on everyone?

LondonManc
27th October 2015, 12:22
It's very simple. Stay contracting, keep working, keep invoicing.

DaveB
27th October 2015, 12:27
Unless you are a permie, or it stops your timesheets being approved, it's not your problem.

Keep out of it and keep invoicing.

oracleslave
27th October 2015, 12:27
Unless your name is Brian, Steve or the Director - why are you trying to solve this?

LondonManc
27th October 2015, 12:29
Unless your name is Brian, Steve or the Director - why are you trying to solve this?

Indeed.

So, if you're:
Steve - potentially sue for defamation
Brian - create some evidence
The Director - get a HR department

MrMarkyMark
27th October 2015, 12:33
so there's a permie i work with who has some problems with a colleague. Permie, let's call him steve used to work for team leader, brian, they never got on working together but all seemed good when steve got promoted lead another team.

Brian is now going round spreading lies, eg. A new permie was hired to replace steve and during induction had a day with steve as handover. New guy quit the next day as he realised the career shift was wrong. Brian is telling everyone steve had a massive argument with new guy.

Loads of other bitching going on about steve and everyone that brian doesn't like. Director has said to stop acting like school girls but nothings changed.

No paper or electronic evidence unfortunately. No hr department either. Too many permies afraid of speaking against brian as he would make their lives miserable if he stayed.

Anyone had a similar experience and know how to sort this out without putting voice recorders on everyone?

WGAF.

HTH.

stek
27th October 2015, 12:49
I agree with the consensus - keep your neb out....

Scoi
27th October 2015, 12:59
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

MrMarkyMark
27th October 2015, 13:01
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

Oh. I can see that it could be tricky for you then.

Going to be Stephanie post op, or......:eyes

northernladuk
27th October 2015, 13:03
Is Brian a girl and this is handbags at dawn per chance?

Can you confirm Dawns gender as well please.

NibblyPig
27th October 2015, 13:04
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

:popcorn:

SimonMac
27th October 2015, 13:05
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

And work is her biggest problem?

jbond007
27th October 2015, 13:07
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

:confused:

LondonManc
27th October 2015, 13:07
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

I remember Tone Loc being in a similar situation after dabbling with the Funky Cold Medina. If only Sheena had been upfront from the start. :smokin

Irrespective of time there, are they both on the same level of the management pyramid?

MrMarkyMark
27th October 2015, 13:10
Permie, let's call him Steve

No wonder I'm confused. :suicide:


Director has said to stop acting like school girls but nothings changed.

I suggest a good old adults arm wrestle to sort the whole sort matter out.

One other question, whats the dress code at your place at work?

JRCT
27th October 2015, 13:18
Just sleep with Brian and get it over with.

MrMarkyMark
27th October 2015, 13:21
Just sleep with Brian and get it over with.

Well, seeing as Brians also a "girl", then a manage a trois could well be on the cards.

Scoi, fill yer boots, son (?!) and report back on here :smokin

Ruprect
27th October 2015, 13:24
I'm Brian and so's my wife

DaveB
27th October 2015, 13:26
I'm Brian and so's my wife

Which won's Woderwick?

LucidDementia
27th October 2015, 13:31
Erm, yeah, confusing.

Assuming these are two women I'd suggest Steve just shuts the F up, has a quiet word with Director to inform them she's shutting the F up. Let Brian dig his/her own hole.
This will require back bone which permies often lack, but if she's putting up with you, going by the word on the street, she does have a spine.

This is called "rising above it" or "being a grown-up".

Should this tactic lead Steve to troublesome official actions like warning or potential disciplinary crap she should sue the bejeezus out of everyone, including you.

TestMangler
27th October 2015, 13:33
Is Brian a girl and this is handbags at dawn per chance?

Can you confirm Dawns gender as well please.

Come on NLUK. I'm sure you've heard the expression 'crack of dawn' so she's clearly female.

northernladuk
27th October 2015, 13:34
I see. I'm involved as Steve is actually my girlfriend.

A/s/l? Pics? Would Mich?

tarbera
27th October 2015, 13:54
Simples

Escalate this for the fun of it

Leave a dog poo in Brian's drawer, loosen the wheels on Steve chair, tell the director you think it's getting out of hand

SimonMac
27th October 2015, 13:57
Come on NLUK. I'm sure you've heard the expression 'crack of dawn' so she's clearly female.

https://enterthecircle.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/butt-crack.jpg

MrMarkyMark
27th October 2015, 14:01
https://enterthecircle.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/butt-crack.jpg

Is that Brian or Steve?

northernladuk
27th October 2015, 14:07
Come on NLUK. I'm sure you've heard the expression 'crack of dawn' so she's clearly female.

Not if rimming is your thing.

TestMangler
27th October 2015, 14:13
Not if rimming is your thing.

That would be 'arse crack' rather than just plain old 'crack'

MrMarkyMark
27th October 2015, 14:16
That would be 'arse crack' rather than just plain old 'crack'

Yes, Gents, please use the correct "terms of reference" in General.

No exceptions :smokin

TestMangler
27th October 2015, 14:20
Yes, Gents, please use the correct "terms of reference" in General.

No exceptions :smokin

WHS. Knowing the difference between the two could save your life.

greenlake
27th October 2015, 17:39
Anyone had a similar experience and know how to sort this out without putting voice recorders on everyone?

Assuming Brian is the 'Bad Guy', and Steve is a girl, this is the approach to take....

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3184495/epic-kick-in-the-balls-o.gif

Scruff
27th October 2015, 17:47
Take Brian up the Oxo Tower and treat him for lunch?

darmstadt
27th October 2015, 17:55
Take Brian up the Oxo Tower and treat him for lunch?

Ah yes, the infamous 'Chocolate Starfish' entree...