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AtW
7th November 2015, 22:46
"A national minimum bedroom size could be introduced under plans to combat overcrowding and rogue landlords.

Local authorities in England could ban rooms smaller than 6.5 sq m from being let as bedrooms in licence applications for multiple occupancy houses.

The Department for Communities and Local Government is setting out the plans in a discussion paper.

Housing minister Brandon Lewis said some landlords provided "simply unacceptable" living accommodation.

The paper, announced by Mr Lewis, sets out plans to improve standards of shared homes by extending mandatory licensing to smaller and medium-sized properties.

Any landlord who fails to obtain a licence would be liable to pay a potentially unlimited fine.

Mr Lewis said: "It is simply unacceptable that people are living in cramped, unsafe accommodation provided by landlords who are more interested in a quick profit than the safety or welfare of their tenants.

"The actions of these rogue landlords are helping fuel illegal working, benefit fraud, and illegal immigration by creating a shadow housing market that carries dangers to people's health as well as communities."

Local authorities would be able to apply the rules to more shared homes than they can currently, including those that are one or two storeys high

The paper also aims to see the rules applied to poorly converted blocks of flats, located above and below shops, which are often exempt from existing rules."

Source: Minimum rented bedroom size proposed by government - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34756249)

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Scruff
7th November 2015, 23:06
65m²

MicrosoftBob
7th November 2015, 23:52
That's going to hit ICT's if they can't live 20 to a room:laugh

NibblyPig
7th November 2015, 23:54
Let's solve the housing crisis by kicking people out and making them even more desperate!

AtW
7th November 2015, 23:54
That's going to hit ICT's if they can't live 20 to a room:laugh

It's not 6.5 sq meters per PERSON, it's PER ROOM.

So MFs Plan Z is still a go ...

GJABS
8th November 2015, 01:02
I can see a workaround for this: Have large rooms 6.5 meters square. But have them only 2 feet high, flat as a pancake.
You could fit five rooms each on top of the next in the space of one existing room.
Like Japanese capsule hotels, only larger (horizontally).

AtW
8th November 2015, 01:31
I can see a workaround for this: Have large rooms 6.5 meters square. But have them only 2 feet high, flat as a pancake.
You could fit five rooms each on top of the next in the space of one existing room.
Like Japanese capsule hotels, only larger (horizontally).

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/d2gtr4DsEWI/maxresdefault.jpg

centurian
8th November 2015, 08:39
The smallest bedroom in my house is now the study - it's 2.4m x 2.4m, which is about 5.75sqm, so would be considered too small by this definition.

Yes, it's on the small side, but it was a bedroom before, could quite comfortably fit a single bed and a wardrobe. Little room for much else, but quite live-able.

Geek mode - the room is also 2.4m high, so the room is very close to be a perfect cube.

FatLazyContractor
8th November 2015, 08:44
Dear AtW,

I just converted my outhouse into a bedroom for my maid. I have attached the photo after conversion.

I don't charge her for staying in it. Will I be alright?

Thanks,
FLC :smokin

http://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/530192e40fd76a2c_4-8816/modern-bedroom.jpg

chopper
8th November 2015, 09:28
Where's the curtains?

I wonder if people would be able to claim that rooms under 6.5sq.m are not bedrooms for the purpose of bedroom tax calculations?

http://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/530192e40fd76a2c_4-8816/modern-bedroom.jpg[/QUOTE]

FatLazyContractor
8th November 2015, 10:19
Where's the curtains?

I wonder if people would be able to claim that rooms under 6.5sq.m are not bedrooms for the purpose of bedroom tax calculations?


Curtains are old school. They are Electro-photo sensitive windows :smokin

GJABS
8th November 2015, 13:10
Where's the curtains?



They're probably in the laundry after FLC wiped a certain part of his anatomy on them :rolleyes:

MicrosoftBob
8th November 2015, 13:24
Where's the curtains?

I wonder if people would be able to claim that rooms under 6.5sq.m are not bedrooms for the purpose of bedroom tax calculations?

http://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/530192e40fd76a2c_4-8816/modern-bedroom.jpg[/QUOTE]

Presumably for the purposes of state benefits they will be deemed to be the correct size based on a hypothetical building that the claimant could be living in if they owned their own property

AtW
8th November 2015, 15:40
Where's the curtains? I wonder if people would be able to claim that rooms under 6.5sq.m are not bedrooms for the purpose of bedroom tax calculations?

If you put a sofa in it rather than bed, then I reckon it will be ok...

greenlake
8th November 2015, 17:16
If you put a sofa in it rather than bed, then I reckon it will be ok...

I'm guessing that would depend on how big it is....

http://i.imgur.com/xcYv5.jpg

BrilloPad
8th November 2015, 17:49
Let's solve the housing crisis by kicking people out and making them even more desperate!

Anyone kicked out of the UK ought to be grateful.

OwlHoot
8th November 2015, 19:11
Dear AtW,

I just converted my outhouse into a bedroom for my maid. I have attached the photo after conversion.

I don't charge her for staying in it. Will I be alright?

Thanks,
FLC :smokin

http://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/530192e40fd76a2c_4-8816/modern-bedroom.jpg

If I couldn't see those trees outside I would have sworn this room was on its side, with the bed and lampstand sticking up from the floor :freaky:

FatLazyContractor
8th November 2015, 20:06
If I couldn't see those trees outside I would have sworn this room was on its side, with the bed and lampstand sticking up from the floor :freaky:

Special effects for the maid innit? She gives me extras in return for that sort of treatment :smokin