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    Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan

    Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan
    By Claudia Joseph Last

    The 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan, the most holy month in the Islamic calendar.

    The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.

    In 2012, Ramadan will take place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12.

    An anticipated 3,000 Muslim competitors are expected to be affected.

    About a quarter of the 11,099 athletes who took part in the 2004 Athens Olympics came from countries with predominantly Muslim populations.

    Because the Muslim calendar is based on a lunar cycle, the ninth month of Ramadan - which runs from the appearance of one new crescent moon to the next - gets earlier by around 11 days each year.

    The clash will be a huge embarrassment for Lord Coe, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell, and London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who have been keen to ensure the Games involve all Britain's ethnic communities.

    Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: "They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan.

    "It shows a complete lack of awareness and sensitivity.

    "This is going to disadvantage the athletes and alienate the Asian communities by saying they don't matter.

    "It's not only going to affect the participants it's going to affect all the people who want to watch the Games.

    "They won't want to travel during Ramadan and they won't want to watch sport. It's a spiritual time."

    Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam on the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "I'm sure the athletes will seek advice from their scholars.

    "They are obviously going to be at a disadvantage because other competitors will be drinking and keeping up their energy levels.

    "But they are athletes and I am sure they will train their bodies to cope with this.

    "A Muslim might feel it would have been nice to avoid this month but life doesn't stop for Muslims during Ramadan even though they are fasting.

    "The best thing for a Muslim is to continue his or her life as normal. This is the real test."

    The British Olympic Association is now planning a meeting with the organisers of London 2012 to discuss how the timing will affect UK Muslim athletes.

    And Muslim countries such as Turkey are calling for the date to be changed.

    Togay Bayalti, president of the National Olympic Committee of Turkey, said: "This will be difficult for Muslim athletes.

    "They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling but they will have to decide whether it is important to them.

    "It would be nice for the friendship of the Games if they had chosen a different date."

    The International Olympics Committee insisted the Games take place some time between July 15 to August 31, giving more than a week either side of Ramadan.

    IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said: "We give a window to the five bid cities. The host city selects the dates within that window.

    "The Games bring together virtually every religion and creed. How to deal with religious clashes is up to the athletes."

    Joanna Manning Cooper, spokeswoman for London 2012, said: "We did know about it when we submitted our bid and we have always believed we could find ways to accommodate it.

    "We had lots of things to consider when we submitted our dates, including the fact that transport will be less crowded in the summer holiday.

    "We also need 70,000 volunteers and this is the best time to find them.

    "We are working with the Muslim Council of Great Britain to find ways to accommodate Ramadan during the London Games."

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    #2
    "They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling but they will have to decide whether it is important to them"

    I think that says it all. As with many other things they can get dispensations from their religious leaders but the usual complaining sorts just prefer to make a fuss.
    bloggoth

    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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      #3
      Will they be doing the athletics with their veils on?
      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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        #4
        Hopefully.

        The sight of someone trying to do the 100m, or hurdles in a burka would actually make the olympics considerably more entertaining.

        I wonder how islam accomodates muslim female swimmers and gymnasts? Maybe they just stone them to death after the competition.
        Vieze Oude Man

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          #5
          We do seem to have bought about an un-elected third house in the "Muslim Council of Great Britain"

          I suppose like the Irish, if you kill and maim enough people, you can circumvent parliamentary procedure and influence Government.
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #6
            As you say, it worked for the ira, paid a salary from the taxpayers coffers, offices in Westminster.... and yet our government has the nerve to say the Spanish have sent out the 'wrong signals' to terrorists by pulling out troops from Iraq.

            Funny old political world we live in.
            Vieze Oude Man

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              #7
              Originally posted by AtW
              Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: [b]"They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan.
              The reason the Olympics are not held during the winter months in the northern hemisphere is that the weather is generally crap. Still, a few highly subsidised Human Rights lawyers ought to be able to convince a judge that it's all actually a conspiracy to make sure Tunisia don't win anything. Anyway, at the risk of sounding slightly controversial, at least Christmas is held at roughly the same time year after year. How the hell are we supposed to keep track of Ramadan for years ahead when it keeps changing. Pick a date and stick to it, you'll find it's easier all round. Better still, let Tescos pick the date - that way you can be sure they'll always have a ready stock of Ramadan goodies. I believe May is a fairly quiet month in the retail sector. That'll do nicely.
              His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                #8
                Originally posted by AtW
                Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan
                By Claudia Joseph Last

                The 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan, the most holy month in the Islamic calendar.

                The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.

                In 2012, Ramadan will take place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12.

                An anticipated 3,000 Muslim competitors are expected to be affected.

                About a quarter of the 11,099 athletes who took part in the 2004 Athens Olympics came from countries with predominantly Muslim populations.

                Because the Muslim calendar is based on a lunar cycle, the ninth month of Ramadan - which runs from the appearance of one new crescent moon to the next - gets earlier by around 11 days each year.

                The clash will be a huge embarrassment for Lord Coe, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell, and London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who have been keen to ensure the Games involve all Britain's ethnic communities.

                Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: "They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan.

                "It shows a complete lack of awareness and sensitivity.

                "This is going to disadvantage the athletes and alienate the Asian communities by saying they don't matter.

                "It's not only going to affect the participants it's going to affect all the people who want to watch the Games.

                "They won't want to travel during Ramadan and they won't want to watch sport. It's a spiritual time."

                Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam on the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "I'm sure the athletes will seek advice from their scholars.

                "They are obviously going to be at a disadvantage because other competitors will be drinking and keeping up their energy levels.

                "But they are athletes and I am sure they will train their bodies to cope with this.

                "A Muslim might feel it would have been nice to avoid this month but life doesn't stop for Muslims during Ramadan even though they are fasting.

                "The best thing for a Muslim is to continue his or her life as normal. This is the real test."

                The British Olympic Association is now planning a meeting with the organisers of London 2012 to discuss how the timing will affect UK Muslim athletes.

                And Muslim countries such as Turkey are calling for the date to be changed.

                Togay Bayalti, president of the National Olympic Committee of Turkey, said: "This will be difficult for Muslim athletes.

                "They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling but they will have to decide whether it is important to them.

                "It would be nice for the friendship of the Games if they had chosen a different date."

                The International Olympics Committee insisted the Games take place some time between July 15 to August 31, giving more than a week either side of Ramadan.

                IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said: "We give a window to the five bid cities. The host city selects the dates within that window.

                "The Games bring together virtually every religion and creed. How to deal with religious clashes is up to the athletes."

                Joanna Manning Cooper, spokeswoman for London 2012, said: "We did know about it when we submitted our bid and we have always believed we could find ways to accommodate it.

                "We had lots of things to consider when we submitted our dates, including the fact that transport will be less crowded in the summer holiday.

                "We also need 70,000 volunteers and this is the best time to find them.

                "We are working with the Muslim Council of Great Britain to find ways to accommodate Ramadan during the London Games."

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                Who gives a damn. A few lame protests and no significance in either the games or the protests. Time moves fast and the killing fields of ww1 are already a distant memory. Hence this petty war and its ofshoots will be seen as nothing less than the falklands or perhaps hackney market.

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                  #9
                  So why are they being angered now...when we have known the dates of the olympics for a bit now?

                  Maybe it was a quiet day on the news front?

                  Mailman

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                    #10
                    Ramadam does not appear to have fixed dates in Western calendar - it seems to float a lot.

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