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    Baby Charlotte

    How much were the parents of baby charlotte influenced by their religious beliefs in keeping their child alive? They have now decided to seperate and shovel their responsibilities onto the rest of us.

    Some may see this as a question of money, that is too simplistic. How many other children with better chances of life could have benefitted from the vast amount of money this case has cost and will continue to cost in the future.

    It could also be argued that god's will has been defied by science inhumanly preserving a life that he had decided to end anyway (not that I go for religious hogwash)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...0&in_a_source=


    A severely disabled child whose parents fought a long legal battle to ensure she was kept alive is to be placed in foster care because her parents have been judged unfit to look after her.

    Brain-damaged Charlotte Wyatt has confounded the predictions of doctors who wanted permission to switch off her life support machine and will turn three on Saturday.

    Her parents Darren, 34, and Debbie, 25, ran up a £500,000 legal bill for the taxpayer as they fought for two years in the courts to force the hospital looking after her to ensure she was resuscitated.

    Eventually, the Wyatts argued, she could be looked after at home. Their successful legal battle was hailed as a moral triumph by those who believe cost should be no object in keeping a child alive even if they require a lifetime of intensive care.

    But despite now being well enough to leave hospital, doctors say she cannot go home to her mother or father as there is no stable two-parent home for her to go to.

    Doctors say that neither Mr nor Mrs Wyatt, who both survive on benefits, would on their own be able to provide their daughter with the 24-hour care she needs.

    And since February it is understood that social workers have been seeking foster parents willing to take on the heavy responsibility of looking after little Charlotte, who has the mental ability of the average 12-week-old baby. So far no-one has been willing do so.

    The case continues the controversy surrounding the child, who was born three months prematurely, weighing just 1lb and less than five inches long, with severe brain and lung damage.

    Costs for her medical care are mounting at around £300 a day, and the NHS Trust treating Charlotte continues to be her carer because there is no longer anyone ready and suitable to take on the role.

    Charlotte's cost to public purse now standing at £1.1m, including £600,000 expenditure by the NHS. Although Charlotte has recovered well from a life-threatening viral infection she experienced in February this year, she remains seriously ill.

    Her doctors estimate that her life expectancy should be measured in 'months and years' rather than 'weeks and months', but she is constantly hooked up to an oxygen tank and needs three litres of oxygen every minute.

    Food comes through a nose tube. Although she is given some small amounts of solid food in her mouth, this is so that she can experience the pleasure of eating rather than to sustain her. According to the most recent assessment of her condition she has 'profound neurological impairment'.

    Charlotte's father Mr Wyatt is unemployed and lives alone in a two-bedroom council flat in Portsmouth.

    He split in January from wife Debbie, with whom he has three other children, Christina, 11 months, David, two, and Daniel, four. He said David and Daniel lived with Debbie in Portchester, a suburb of Portsmouth.

    Yesterday Mr Wyatt - who claims to visit Charlotte 'almost every day' - told the Daily Mail that Social Services have been looking for a foster home for Charlotte ever since she recovered from a viral infection in February.

    Mr Wyatt said: 'She has been well enough to leave for months, but because Debbie and I are not together she hasn't got a stable home to go to.

    'Social Services are supposed to be looking for a foster home for her but they don't seem to be able to find one. I took an overdose after Debbie left and they had to assess me to see if I could cope.

    'I have offered to take her, and if I had the proper care package and people helping me then I could do it - but they said "No" because it would be too much.

    'I have been saying this ever since February, but they just don't believe that I could offer her the proper care. I don't understand why they can't at least try it.

    'I said I could work during the day and they could have a carer coming in to help me get her into bed. But Social Services said "No, sorry, we don't do that".

    'Hopefully she'll be put into care somewhere nearby and I'll be able to go and see her every day.'

    In order to look after her at home Mr Wyatt would need to be equiped with oxygen breathing machinery and nasal-gastric feeding equipment, plus spare equipment if either broke down.

    Charlotte's doctor said in a recent letter to her father: 'While limited in scope for interaction, Charlotte has an appreciation of her environment and can take pleasure in this.

    'For example, she seems happy on hearing specific types of music and enjoys anticipation games such as "Round and round the garden, like a teddy bear".'

    Charlotte must takes six different types of drug a total of eleven times, every day, yet her doctor estimates that her life expectancy outside hospital would be the same as it is in hospital.

    He wrote earlier this month: 'On a day-to-day basis her care could now be given outside hospital. With potential for quite good life quality, I would regard a more natural, stable and stimulating environment as the highest priority for Charlotte.

    'If discharged from hospital, she would have access to return if required - as does any child.' Last night Mrs Wyatt was not available for comment.

    Neither the Hospital's NHS Trust nor City Council had any spokesman prepared to discuss the future of Charlotte Wyatt. But Conservative MP Ann Widdecombe said the doctors fighting for the right to leave Charlotte to die had placed an intolerable strain on her parents' relationship.

    Miss Widdecombe said: 'Doctors spent the first two years of that child's life trying to end it. The amazing thing is that the family kept going for as long as they did.'

    On Saturday, instead of celebrating her birthday at home with her mother and father, Charlotte is to have a small party on her ward in. It is unclear whether her parents will attend.
    Last edited by Forumbore; 16 October 2006, 13:39.

    #2
    Not sure from your comments which bit you object to as I can't see why the parents' religious belief has any barring on it. Surely any parent would want proper care to be given to their child regardless of faith.

    I also don't see the relevance of the fact that the parents are on benefits. I don't have £500K for legal bills nor a further £600K for medical costs and I'm a contractor FFS.

    I think the article itself is particularly bad even for the Daily Mail - they've found away to focus on the worst bits of a very sad story.

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      #3
      Her parents, Darren, 34, and Debbie Wyatt, 25, from Portsmouth, Hampshire, split up in January and say they cannot look after her. They are both on welfare.

      Mr Wyatt said: "If me and Debbie had all the right support when we were together we probably wouldn't have split up.
      It's always someone elses fault, isn't it?
      The vegetarian option.

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        #4
        Hmmm difficult one this. If I was the parent, I'd probably not want to prolong the life of my child if it's quality of life was going to be seriously comprised and involved long-term pain and anguish.
        On the other hand, when you see your own flesh and blood in front of you, your heart would probably rule your head.
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #5
          Originally posted by sasguru
          Hmmm difficult one this. If I was the parent, I'd probably not want to prolong the life of my child if it's quality of life was going to be seriously comprised and involved long-term pain and anguish.
          On the other hand, when you see your own flesh and blood in front of you, your heart would probably rule your head.

          I agree entirely and that's what the argument should be about and ultimately it should be the parents decision.

          The argument should have nothing to do with the parents' religion or financial situation.

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            #6
            I for one would not want a disabled child. I would do as much as is possible to ensure we didnt have one. ie. Scans when pregnant etc, abort if down-syndrome(me & other half discussed this). (Must point out, when I mean disabled - I mean badly disabled, especially mentally disabled(see Helios)).

            It isn't just the childs quality of lifes - it's yours and I don't believe you should knowlingly bring or prolong childrens lives that are so seriously impaired which ruins the childs & yours.
            What happens in General, stays in General.
            You know what they say about assumptions!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Pondlife
              I agree entirely and that's what the argument should be about and ultimately it should be the parents decision.

              The argument should have nothing to do with the parents' religion or financial situation.
              I think you will find that the parents are devout christians. How much that had to do with their determination to keep the child alive I do not know.
              Given that money is not in limitless supply then I am afraid that money does come in to the equation.

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                #8
                Exactly - it should be YOUR choice. The decision is hard enough without the additional pressure of a govenment trying to make it for you on the basis of cost.


                Edit: I was responding to/agreeing with MF.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pondlife
                  Exactly - it should be YOUR choice. The decision is hard enough without the additional pressure of a govenment trying to make it for you on the basis of cost.
                  It cannot be YOUR choice if there is no money to pay for it. These people having had their choice supported are now shoving the responsibilities on to someone else. The rest of society now has no Choice but to support the life of this poor child.

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                    #10
                    My wife and I discussed this when it all came out earlier this year. We couldn't agree on what we'd do. It's the same on my death...I want to be cremated but she can't stand the thought of me being burnt...numpty!!! I'll show her...I'll fill my car with gasoline then drive into a wall at 100mph....there shouldn't be much left after the subsequent fireball other than a lot of dust...
                    Illegitimus non carborundum est!

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