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Troll
8th February 2016, 08:41
Be careful on your commute! (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12144963/Commuter-who-walked-past-actress-at-Waterloo-station-cleared-of-bizarre-sex-assault-claim.html)

Once again women are free to make spurious claims anonymously leaving the mans reputation suffering


Mark Pearson may not even have made physical contact with woman in her 60s on busy concourse - but CPS approved sex assault charge

The CCTV did not conclusively prove there was any form of physical contact between the two strangers, but it still led to the CPS presenting a case that the man was able to penetrate the actress, who is in her 60s.

Mr Pearson told the court: “I would have had to crouch down, put my hand up the woman’s skirt... penetrate her, take my hand out again... all while holding the newspaper and walking along the concourse.

VectraMan
8th February 2016, 09:04
In a three-day trial Mark Bagshaw, defending, said the allegation could not have taken place in the half-second time frame shown on CCTV, especially as Mr Pearson was carrying a newspaper in his left hand – the one he was alleged to have used in the assault – and holding his bag in his right.

Clever dick?

fullyautomatix
8th February 2016, 09:18
How did it even make it to the court ? At the first port of call, it should have been dismissed and she should have been laughed at for fantasizing impossible actions.

LondonManc
8th February 2016, 09:29
How did it even make it to the court ? At the first port of call, it should have been dismissed and she should have been laughed at for fantasizing impossible actions.

Stuff that, she should be charged with wasting police time and whatever else can be pinned on her. The problem is that it needs to be done in such a way as to not put off genuine victims from coming forward.

Troll
8th February 2016, 09:31
Stuff that, she should be charged with wasting police time and whatever else can be pinned on her. The problem is that it needs to be done in such a way as to not put off genuine victims from coming forward.Think the CPS has an "agenda"

vetran
8th February 2016, 09:38
read this last night.

Her story does not tie up with the CCTV. She should have been questioned about that and the case kept out of court.

She may have been assaulted but not the way she said or by the chap that didn't have time or didn't run.

It was a waste of money and dreadful for the chap involved.

fullyautomatix
8th February 2016, 09:41
Well this all comes partly from the fact that all women think men are out to grab their ass at every given opportunity. That is not true, right ? Well except FLC.

Gumbo Robot
8th February 2016, 09:45
Think the CPS has an "agenda"

Alison Saunders (https://www.cps.gov.uk/about/dpp.html)

Another one of Bliar's common purpose placemen probably.

MicrosoftBob
8th February 2016, 09:48
Well this all comes partly from the fact that all women think men are out to grab their ass at every given opportunity. That is not true, right ? Well except FLC.

I don't think every woman has a donkey, we're not living in Borat territory

seanraaron
8th February 2016, 09:52
I suspect the "sufficient evidence" in this case was that the accuser was a "well-known actress." Given the circumstances I cannot see how anyone levelling an accusation like this would have been taken seriously, much less warrant tracking the guy down via his Oyster card.

I don't think this falls under a general criticism of "women making false accusations," but different levels of response being given to different classes of the public. In my experience women generally have a harder time being taken seriously by police when making any accusations.

vetran
8th February 2016, 09:58
I suspect the "sufficient evidence" in this case was that the accuser was a "well-known actress." Given the circumstances I cannot see how anyone levelling an accusation like this would have been taken seriously, much less warrant tracking the guy down via his Oyster card.

they must have watched the CCTV to identify the guy. At that point the passage of 1 second (he couldn't have assaulted her in the way suggested in the time) and the fact the guy was clearly not running (she stated he ran away) should have rung alarm bells.

Now what might have happened is they collided he called her a silly XYZ and she thought I'll get back at him then it snowballed.

mudskipper
8th February 2016, 10:00
Well this all comes partly from the fact that all women think men are out to grab their ass at every given opportunity. That is not true, right ? Well except FLC.

Sex offences on trains and stations reach record level - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33979568)

1,399 reported sexual assaults in 2014/15 on trains and at stations.

I'd wager that there are many more unreported. If you're a woman, and you travel daily in rush hour on the tube, the chances are that someone will cop a feel at some point. The guys who do this don't do it once, they do it at every opportunity.

(This case does seem ridiculous though)

vetran
8th February 2016, 10:11
Sex offences on trains and stations reach record level - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33979568)

1,399 reported sexual assaults in 2014/15 on trains and at stations.

I'd wager that there are many more unreported. If you're a woman, and you travel daily in rush hour on the tube, the chances are that someone will cop a feel at some point. The guys who do this don't do it once, they do it at every opportunity.

(This case does seem ridiculous though)

that reported number seems a little low considering its a million plus people packed into trains every day.

Sad people behave like this.

NotAllThere
8th February 2016, 10:53
I suspect the "sufficient evidence" in this case was that the accuser was a "well-known actress.".Well known? Another case for Inspector Yewtree then.

seanraaron
8th February 2016, 11:07
Now what might have happened is they collided he called her a silly XYZ and she thought I'll get back at him then it snowballed.

Seems logical and just points more to how entitled the accuser must have felt. Imagine if this happened in the States in a jurisdiction with widespread concealed carry permits. Guy would have been lucky to walk away!

FatLazyContractor
8th February 2016, 11:08
I'd wager that there are many more unreported. If you're a woman, and you travel daily in rush hour on the tube, the chances are that someone will cop a feel at some point. The guys who do this don't do it once, they do it at every opportunity.

Examples?

Troll
8th February 2016, 11:25
If you're a woman, and you travel daily in rush hour on the tube, the chances are that someone will cop a feel at some point.
Is that from experience or anecdotal?

DodgyAccountant
8th February 2016, 12:41
"Prosecutors slowed down CCTV in case of commuter cleared of 'bizarre' sex assault on actress"

Prosecutors slowed down CCTV in case of commuter cleared of 'bizarre' sex assault on actress - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12146274/Prosecutors-slowed-down-CCTV-in-case-of-commuter-cleared-of-bizarre-sex-assault-on-actress.html)

vetran
8th February 2016, 12:45
"Prosecutors slowed down CCTV in case of commuter cleared of 'bizarre' sex assault on actress"

Prosecutors slowed down CCTV in case of commuter cleared of 'bizarre' sex assault on actress - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12146274/Prosecutors-slowed-down-CCTV-in-case-of-commuter-cleared-of-bizarre-sex-assault-on-actress.html)

hmm someone needs to go to prison and its not the accused or the accuser.

BrilloPad
8th February 2016, 12:49
Arm all women with Tasers.......

FatLazyContractor
8th February 2016, 12:50
Arm all women with Tasers.......

or ..

https://bak2moi.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/chastity-belt.jpg

mudskipper
8th February 2016, 13:00
hmm someone needs to go to prison and its not the accused or the accuser.

"Instead of one frame per second, it was running at two frames per second."

Other way round, shirley?

d000hg
8th February 2016, 13:01
Is that from experience or anecdotal?Surely it's common knowledge? Men are pigs ;)

FatLazyContractor
8th February 2016, 13:07
Surely it's common knowledge? Men are pigs ;)

Ban D000hg. He insulted our Muslim friends :mad

vetran
8th February 2016, 13:07
"Instead of one frame per second, it was running at two frames per second."

Other way round, shirley?

yes I saw that and thought 'oh well its the Telegraph what do you expect?'

BrilloPad
8th February 2016, 13:09
yes I saw that and thought 'oh well its the Telegraph what do you expect?'

Did they get it right in the Mail?

vetran
8th February 2016, 13:10
Surely it's common knowledge? Men are pigs ;)

I'm pretty sure MS is telling the truth there are some men, apparently quite a few who touch women up on trains. I also imagine there are a lot of women who perceive they are touched up by blokes when its an accident, something I have been guilty of completely innocently.
The former needs stamping, out the latter needs more trains.

BrilloPad
8th February 2016, 13:16
I'm pretty sure MS is telling the truth there are some men, apparently quite a few who touch women up on trains. I also imagine there are a lot of women who perceive they are touched up by blokes when its an accident, something I have been guilty of completely innocently.
The former needs stamping, out the latter needs more trains.

I have been "touched up". I reckon it is completely accidental.

Incredible that in this case the women claims she was penetrated. By a man walking past. In a second. Even in 2 seconds as per doctored CCTV it seems astonishing.

DimPrawn
8th February 2016, 13:16
I also imagine there are a lot of women who perceive they are touched up by blokes when its an accident, something I have been guilty of completely innocently.
.

Viagra and crowded trains are a bad mix.

vetran
8th February 2016, 13:22
Being on a promise with girlfriend and crowded trains are a bad mix.

FTFMe don't need the little blue pill :smokin

d000hg
8th February 2016, 13:23
I have been "touched up". I reckon it is completely accidental.

Incredible that in this case the women claims she was penetrated. By a man walking past. In a second. Even in 2 seconds as per doctored CCTV it seems astonishing.For some people 2 seconds is doing well ;)

Troll
8th February 2016, 13:39
I touch women up on trains. something I have been guilty of


FTFY

Daily Mail

vetran
8th February 2016, 15:08
Did they get it right in the Mail?

yes

Prosecutors 'slowed down' CCTV footage of commuter accused of bizarre sex assault | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437198/Prosecutors-slowed-CCTV-footage-commuter-accused-bizarre-sex-assault-actress-make-look-guilty.html)



By reducing the video's speed by half, the moments before and after Mr Pearson passed the woman, would have seemed longer to the jury than they really were.

see you should read a quality paper :wink

LondonManc
8th February 2016, 15:35
yes

Prosecutors 'slowed down' CCTV footage of commuter accused of bizarre sex assault | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437198/Prosecutors-slowed-CCTV-footage-commuter-accused-bizarre-sex-assault-actress-make-look-guilty.html)



By reducing the video's speed by half, the moments before and after Mr Pearson passed the woman, would have seemed longer to the jury than they really were.

see you should read a quality paper :wink
So, reducing it by half would double it then?

vetran
8th February 2016, 15:48
So, reducing it by half would double it then?

yes 1 second would appear to last 2 seconds.

LondonManc
8th February 2016, 16:23
yes 1 second would appear to last 2 seconds.

Same principle as seeing a glass fall off the kitchen worktop then.

vetran
8th February 2016, 16:25
Same principle as seeing a glass fall off the kitchen worktop then.

or MM getting Laid

BrilloPad
8th February 2016, 16:26
For some people 2 seconds is doing well ;)

I believe you are supposed to last longer than 2 seconds. Judging from the divorce reasons I have received.

FatLazyContractor
8th February 2016, 16:28
I believe you are supposed to last longer than 2 seconds. Judging from the divorce reasons I have received.

Your reasons are different innit? They were all due to the size and not the duration.

HTH
MF

psychocandy
9th February 2016, 10:41
Stuff that, she should be charged with wasting police time and whatever else can be pinned on her. The problem is that it needs to be done in such a way as to not put off genuine victims from coming forward.

Yep she should have got two years in jail for it. I've got a thing about this - like you said its an insult to genuine victims.

Similar sort of thing happened to someone I know. Totally innocent but if the woman says it must be true. He went through two years of hell, lost his job etc but then she owned up she'd made it up. Nothing happened to her. Its just plain wrong.

barrydidit
9th February 2016, 11:24
"Instead of one frame per second, it was running at two frames per second."

Other way round, shirley?

Not if they also dubbed the benny hill music over it :smile

vetran
9th February 2016, 11:48
Yep she should have got two years in jail for it. I've got a thing about this - like you said its an insult to genuine victims.

Similar sort of thing happened to someone I know. Totally innocent but if the woman says it must be true. He went through two years of hell, lost his job etc but then she owned up she'd made it up. Nothing happened to her. Its just plain wrong.

The CPS are desperate to prosecute rapes.Now until someone gets sacked for this kind of stupidity nothing will change. Lets hope this bloke takes them to the cleaners for compensation.

BrilloPad
9th February 2016, 11:49
Women commute? Are they albelian?

:laugh :laugh :laugh

assguru

xoggoth
9th February 2016, 12:23
Need an underpants transporter. Sit there quietly in your seat and beam your willy into whatever looks good.

cojak
9th February 2016, 12:31
I'm finding this thread increasingly unpleasant, so I'm locking it.