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oh dear (tm): David Cameron admits he did have PROFITABLE stake in father's offshore

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    oh dear (tm): David Cameron admits he did have PROFITABLE stake in father's offshore

    "David Cameron has admitted he did have a profitable stake in his father’s offshore investment fund, before selling it for around £30,000 before he became Prime Minister.

    The admission comes five days after a huge cache of documents were leaked – dubbed the Panama Papers – detailing the tax affairs of thousands of individuals of worldwide. The Prime Minister’s father, Ian Cameron, who passed away in 2010, was exposed as running a fund under the name of Blairmore Holdings in the papers.

    Downing Street staffers initially said that it was a “private matter” whether or not Mr Cameron had benefitted from the fund. It later issued a series of statements denying the Prime Minister currently benefitted from offshore funds, or stood to do so in the future. Though, despite the clarifications, a number of questions still remained.

    He said that his and Samantha Cameron’s profit from the scheme was "subject to all the UK taxes in the normal ways".

    Number 10 said Mr and Mrs Cameron bought their holding in April 1997 for £12,497 and sold it in January 2010 for £31,500.

    "I paid income tax on the dividends, but there was a profit on it but it was less than the capital gains tax allowance (AtW's comment: Capital gain was 19003, how was that below threshold???), so I didn't pay capital gains tax, but it was subject to all the UK taxes in all the normal ways," Mr Cameron told IT

    "

    Source: Panama Papers: David Cameron admits he did have a stake in father Ian Cameron's offshore investment fund | UK Politics | News | The Independent

    So, he DID profit from offshore fund which never paid UK tax!

    His CGT supposedly was below threshold, so no sale... but would he really ONLY own £30k worth of shares in a fund which allegedly had millions???

    Last edited by AtW; 7 April 2016, 18:03.

    #2
    So I reckon he sold it in two parts - Jan-Mar 2010 and then after 6 April, so two allowance to AVOID paying any tax.

    The question would be whether he sold it for true value rather than sham transaction to reduce his CGT - would his father hate him so much that he'd only have his son with £30k in what must have been very big fund?

    Did he use HMRC share valuation service?

    What were the dividends received on his stake (that can help understand if he artificially reduced valuation for CGT purposes)?

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      #3
      "But in an interview with ITV News, he insisted that it was a "fundamental misconception" that Blairmore Holdings, set up by his father Ian Cameron the 1980s and run from the Bahamas, was set up to avoid tax. He said his father was being "unfairly written about"."




      The question I'd put to him is this - what did his father do in 70s when income tax rates were cut to only 75%, plus token 15% surcharge on investment income ( ), so during all those years his family honestly paid those taxes and only in 80s when tax rates were cut to something more reasonable they opened offshore company to avoid paying ....

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        #4
        Anything that comes out of Cameron, Gidiot or any of the Tory front bencher's mouths should be considered a lie.

        This is why the idiot young voted for Corbyn and so we have no opposition to question them.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #5
          "Speaking after almost a week of refusing to comment on the leak but issuing four statements, Cameron said he and his wife, Samantha, held 5,000 units in the Blairmore Investment Trust for three years from 1997.

          The stake was purchased for £12,497 and sold for £31,500 in January 2010, giving the Camerons a £19,003 profit, £300 below the capital gains tax allowance. "

          Source: David Cameron admits he profited from father's offshore fund | News | The Guardian

          I call BS on share value that he sold at - no way it would be that small, he paid all tax, why could not he declare it long time ago if all was above board?

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            #6
            "“It was set up after exchange controls went so that people who wanted to invest in dollar denominated shares and companies could do so.”"

            So it was setup to bypass exchange controls... why didn't he set it up in USA?

            Oh wait, maybe no taxes and this had something to do with it -

            "Documents released in the Panama Papers show how the firm used unregistered “bearer shares” to protect its clients’ privacy. Ian Cameron’s use of the firm to help shield investments from UK tax helped build up a significant legacy, part of which was inherited by the PM. "

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              #7
              There are some places in the US that are tax havens e.g. Delaware
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #8
                If the holding was equally owned then the capital gain would be below the threshold. Hard to fully comment without all the facts but holding an asset offshore is not necessarily wrong provided the tax is paid. Any tax on the dividends may have been paid or probably more likely, there were no dividends, the profits rolled up in as an 'accumulation' fund.

                Having said all that I would like to see tax havens closed down, in the end the main reason they exist is for people to hide, evade and avoid taxes and to hide their assets.
                "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  There are some places in the US that are tax havens e.g. Delaware
                  Delaware is not a tax heaven!!!

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                    #10
                    To paraphrase Phil Neal "It's made for Corbyn this, Boss".....

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