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KentDogWalker
15th April 2016, 10:15
Some big companies London are approaching me and asking for figures to go premie.

(Frontend dev)

FatLazyContractor
15th April 2016, 10:16
How long is MF's sausage?

LondonManc
15th April 2016, 10:16
Some big companies London are approaching me and asking for figures to go premie.

(Frontend dev)

As much as I can get.

Start off at something eye-watering, pass through ludicrous and settle on something barely justifiable.

KentDogWalker
15th April 2016, 10:17
As much as I can get.

Start off at something eye-watering, pass through ludicrous and settle on something barely justifiable.

So justifiable would be...

PurpleGorilla
15th April 2016, 10:19
So justifiable would be...


dayrate * 200

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 10:20
Bit of a daft question.

vetran
15th April 2016, 10:22
How long is MF's sausage?

you'd sell yourself that cheap :eek

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 10:22
How long is MF's sausage?

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/20555792/3/stock-photo-20555792-young-woman-teeny-tiny-finger-gesture.jpg

WTFH
15th April 2016, 10:26
It depends. Too many variables to answer a one line question with a number.


Things to consider:
Location
Lifestyle
Benefits
Security
Running costs


e.g. if I was offered a permie role working from home for 99% of what I'm currently on, but with a pension, healthcare, phone, 60 days holiday a year, etc, I'd probably think about it.

stek
15th April 2016, 10:28
I was on £65k (plus O/T) in Leeds in 2010 for one year before I couldn't stand it anymore and went back contracting.

Even then I felt skint, seeing half of every hours overtime going to the tax man turned my stomach.

d000hg
15th April 2016, 11:04
It depends how much you can carve out the job you want - responsibilities, working environment, flexibility, whatever.

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 11:06
Find a salary you can live on comfortably, and then focus on a place that's a short commute, enjoyable place to be, nice totty to look at, easy life.

Kick back and relax. :smile

unemployed
15th April 2016, 11:12
Find a salary you can live on comfortably, and then focus on a place that's a short commute, enjoyable place to be, nice totty to look at, easy life.

Kick back and relax. :smile

Too much focus on money nowadays, life is short guys why spend it in a place you hate working .

Take property out of your expenses and you can live on feck all in the UK .

Or just live with your mum :rollin:

vetran
15th April 2016, 12:13
Find a salary you can live on comfortably, and then focus on a place that's a short commute, enjoyable place to be, nice totty to look at, easy life.

Kick back and relax. :smile

+1

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 12:17
Otherwise kill yourself for a big salary, and each month hand over 1/2 of it to Gidiot.

Your choice.

KentDogWalker
15th April 2016, 12:18
so if the commute was the same time, and the work was good, would you trade £500pd for 100k?

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 12:33
so if the commute was the same time, and the work was good, would you trade £500pd for 100k?

I would, mostly because I'd aim to stay somewhere good for 5 or more years. Contracting ain't what it used to be.

NorthWestPerm2Contr
15th April 2016, 12:40
so if the commute was the same time, and the work was good, would you trade £500pd for 100k?

I think I'd seriously consider 100k instead of £500/day....Especially now that the divi tax has bridged the gap. However, there would have to be a lot of benefits on offer and if you add in 25 days holiday, WFH and the ability to learn new (more expensive) skills ready to go contracting in a year or two, then it is even more worthwhile.

MarillionFan
15th April 2016, 13:34
150K and the same in shares again each year. :smokin

FatLazyContractor
15th April 2016, 13:34
150K and the same in pies again each year. :smokin

FTFY

quackhandle
15th April 2016, 13:45
The ability to learn new things would be high on the list. The amount of permies I've worked with who sit there bored of their skulls, with the same conversation:

Me: How long has it been like this?

Permy, turns round from surfing BBC/Facebook all day: Oh, about a year. I was promised I could learn <insert new buzzword here> but nothing ever came of it.

Me: Oh. Coffee?


A year of the same old, same old. Jesus wept. :suicide:

qh

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 14:08
A lot of companies lure contractors to perm with promises of expensive and endless training, only to find, due to budget cuts to fund management bonuses, it's a book and Pluralsight subscription.

Agents and clients bullshit more than contractors at invterviews.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

stek
15th April 2016, 14:12
A lot of companies lure contractors to perm with promises of expensive and endless training, only to find, due to budget cuts to fund management bonuses, it's a book and Pluralsight subscription.

Agents and clients bulltulip more than contractors at invterviews.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

They got me with the 20% bonus thing last permie role I had, agent assured me (yeah, I know) that it's always paid out company doing very well, only to find on day one, it had actually never been paid out.

vetran
15th April 2016, 14:16
They got me with the 20% bonus thing last permie role I had, agent assured me (yeah, I know) that it's always paid out company doing very well, only to find on day one, it had actually never been paid out.

seen that, years of Bonus payments then they changed the deal across EMEA, luckily I still got a lot of it as I had above average bonus percentage, loads of others now get 2% not 10%.

coolhandluke
15th April 2016, 17:59
The problem with most big permie salaries is that they come with lots of grief and stress.

MarillionFan
15th April 2016, 19:00
The problem with most big permie salaries is that they come with lots of grief and stress.


Now ain't that the truth. 8pm Friday and still working ****s sake.

unemployed
15th April 2016, 19:13
Now ain't that the truth. 8pm Friday and still working ****s sake.

Enjoying a pint while mum cooks dinner
And does the washing.

:rollin:

ShandyDrinker
15th April 2016, 20:08
so if the commute was the same time, and the work was good, would you trade £500pd for 100k?


I would, mostly because I'd aim to stay somewhere good for 5 or more years. Contracting ain't what it used to be.


I think I'd seriously consider 100k instead of £500/day....Especially now that the divi tax has bridged the gap. However, there would have to be a lot of benefits on offer and if you add in 25 days holiday, WFH and the ability to learn new (more expensive) skills ready to go contracting in a year or two, then it is even more worthwhile.

I'd consider it too for the reasons mentioned above, particularly what NWP2C says.

MrMarkyMark
16th April 2016, 06:22
FTFY


Enjoying a furtive w@nk while mum cooks dinner
And does the washing.

:rollin:

Timothy!!!!!!

unemployed
16th April 2016, 10:27
FTFY



Timothy!!!!!!

I like my feckless life.

I made money by being a useless twunt

MrMarkyMark
16th April 2016, 10:32
FTFY

i like my feckless life.

I made money by being a useless twunt and living with mummy

:D

unemployed
16th April 2016, 11:00
FTFY


:D
Actually true, although I did move out for 4 year's

:eek:

Came back to the nest, I prefer her 3500 sqft house:rollin:

DimPrawn
16th April 2016, 12:16
Actually true, although I did move out for 4 year's

:eek:

Came back to the nest, I prefer her comforting nature:rollin:

FTFY

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/25/article-2613012-1D58E95600000578-841_634x347.jpg

PurpleGorilla
16th April 2016, 12:18
LoL

unemployed
16th April 2016, 14:01
FTFY

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/25/article-2613012-1D58E95600000578-841_634x347.jpg

Mmmm skinny latte

MrMarkyMark
16th April 2016, 15:01
Actually true, although I did move out for 4 year's

:eek:

Came back to the nest, I prefer her 3500 sqft house:rollin:

Like riding a bike. Please excuse the poor terminology :smokin

unemployed
16th April 2016, 16:53
Like riding a bike. Please excuse the poor terminology :smokin

Going back to my roots

FatLazyContractor
16th April 2016, 20:24
Going back to my roots

Were you unemployed even then?

unemployed
16th April 2016, 20:29
Were you unemployed even then?

Yep I do sweet FA really

Lazy chunt

LondonManc
16th April 2016, 21:12
So justifiable would be...

Depends upon location, role, etc. Could be anything from 80-150k pa