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scooterscot
15th April 2016, 14:48
Can we still export terrorism if we leave the EU?



Five UK terrorism arrests in Birmingham and at Gatwick Airport 'linked to attacks on Brussels and Paris' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/15/five-uk-terrorism-arrests-linked-to-attacks-on-brussels-and-pari/)



Five UK terrorism arrests in Birmingham and at Gatwick Airport 'linked to attacks on Brussels and Paris'
Four of the arrests were made in Birmingham (right) and are believed to be linked to terror attacks in Brussels that killed 32 people
Four of the arrests were made in Birmingham (right) and are believed to be linked to terror attacks in Brussels that killed 32 people CREDIT: CORBIS/ALAMY/PAVEL OHAL
Tom Whitehead, security editor
15 APRIL 2016 • 2:00PM
Five people have been arrested by British anti-terror police as part of an operation with Belgian and French authorities following attacks in Europe.

Counter-terror officers in the West Midlands said they were working with MI5 and international partners to "address any associated threat to the UK" after militants struck in Brussels and Paris.

Whitehall sources described the arrests as “significant”.

Four people - three men aged 26, 40 and 59 and a 29-year-old woman - were arrested in Birmingham on Thursday night, while a 26-year-old man was arrested at Gatwick Airport early on Friday morning.

They were held on suspicion of being involved in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism.

The arrests were made by anti-terror police in Birmingham and at Gatwick
The arrests were made by anti-terror police in Birmingham and at Gatwick CREDIT: GETTY
Assistant Chief Constable Marcus Beale, the head of counter-terrorism for the West Midlands, said: "This action forms part of an extensive investigation by West Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit (WMCTU), together with the wider counter terrorism network, MI5 and international partners including Belgian and French authorities to address any associated threat to the UK following the attacks in Europe.

"The arrests were pre-planned and intelligence-led. There was no risk to the public at any time and there is no information to suggest an attack in the UK was being planned."

The five arrested people are being held in the West Midlands, where they are being questioned by officers.

Police are also searching several properties in the city as part of the investigation.

A key line of inquiry is whether the group is connected to Mohamed Abrini, a prime suspect in both the Brussels terror attacks last month and the November Paris atrocities.

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Abrini is known to have visited contacts in Birmingham last year as well as visiting London and Manchester.

The British arrests came less than a week after Abrini himself was finally detained by Belgian police.

Abrini, who was known by the nickname Brioche because he once worked in a bakery, is believed to be the so-called “man in the hat” who was seen on CCTV with the two suicide bombers moments before the Brussels airport bombing.

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It raises the prospect that the operation in Birmingham was a result of further details gleaned from evidence seized in Abrini’s arrest or from his questioning.

West Midlands Police were already investigating possible connections to the Paris cell after reports last year that one of them may have visited the city.

It was first reported to have been Paris mastermind Abdelhamid Abaaoud but it is now believed the connection was Abrini.

The focus on Abrini’s movements intensified after the Brussels attacks and it was feared the network may have also been plotting attacks on British soil.

The cell had "discussed launching attacks in Britain" as well as at the Euro 2016 football tournament in France, which begins in June.

Investigators managed to extract new information from a laptop discarded in a bin by Ibrahim El Bakraoui, one of the Brussels airport bombers.

The computer files showed the bomber discussed attacks in "other European countries" besides Belgium, starting with France. "Great Britain is also mentioned as a potential target," a European intelligence source said.

It was also reported that investigators obtained a taped conversation between Najim Laachraoui, the suspected bomb maker for the Paris and Brussels attacks, and a "foreign contact" in which Britain is also mentioned.

The_Equalizer
15th April 2016, 14:58
[QUOTE=scooterscot;2239373]Can we still export terrorism if we leave the EU?

Or does this just mean it's a Europe wide problem that is likely to get worse?

DimPrawn
15th April 2016, 15:00
TL;DR;

vetran
15th April 2016, 15:04
Were they 'British'?

jamesbrown
15th April 2016, 15:04
This whole discussion is a complete red herring. There would be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage of leaving the EU in this respect, as: 1) sharing of sensitive information, as opposed to generic databases, is inherently bilateral, for obvious reasons (sharing sensitive info. with some countries would be like putting it in the public domain); and 2) the first priority of all countries is to the security of their citizens; to suggest that critical information would not be shared on the basis of being in/out of the EU is utterly absurd. It's also worth noting that our security services are, without question, the best in Europe, and our connections through the Five Eyes and other channels are far more important than any generic EU databases (which would be available to us, inside or outside of the EU). Frankly, I don't appreciate the scaremongering on either side of the debate w/r to national security. Both sides need to grow up in using this as leverage.

vetran
15th April 2016, 15:13
This whole discussion is a complete red herring. There would be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage of leaving the EU in this respect, as: 1) sharing of sensitive information, as opposed to generic databases, is inherently bilateral, for obvious reasons (sharing sensitive info. with some countries would be like putting it in the public domain); and 2) the first priority of all countries is to the security of their citizens; to suggest that critical information would not be shared on the basis of being in/out of the EU is utterly absurd. It's also worth noting that our security services are, without question, the best in Europe, and our connections through the Five Eyes and other channels are far more important than any generic EU databases (which would be available to us, inside or outside of the EU). Frankly, I don't appreciate the scaremongering on either side of the debate w/r to national security. Both sides need to grow up in using this as leverage.

Don't be so silly after Brexit we will cast adrift friendless and broken, when the Dinosaurs come back France & Germany will just laugh.

scooterscot
15th April 2016, 15:15
Were they 'British'?

As British as Birmingham. :igmc:

Hobosapien
16th April 2016, 07:58
Only a matter of time before someone does something useful with the Isle of Wight (Isle of Man has the TT so has already proven it's worth :tongue), and turns it into a Guantanamo 'Escape from New York' style.

Ship all the prisoners and wannabe terrorists over and we'll have a new Australia to take the piss out of in a few hundred years. :smokin