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Brexit won't stop EU migration

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    Brexit won't stop EU migration

    Brexiteers point to Norway and Switzerland as models we should aspire to - not realising that in both countries the right of freedom of movement for EU nationals exist.
    In both those countries per capita European migration is higher than the UK.
    Switzerland recently voted in a referendum to stop free EU movement, but the EU has refused to negotiate on the matter.
    Basically it's a condition for access to the single European market.
    So the only way to really stop EU migration is to agree not to access the European Single Market.
    Lets see what the Swiss decide to do.
    But given that 45% of UK exports go to the European single market area, for the UK to not have access to the single European market (or to have tariffs imposed) would be economically very difficult indeed.

    PS Don't blame the messenger as some on here tend to do. The above is all factual.
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Brexiteers point to Norway and Switzerland as models we should aspire to - not realising that in both countries the right of freedom of movement for EU nationals exist.
    In both those countries per capita European migration is higher than the UK.
    Switzerland recently voted in a referendum to stop free EU movement, but the EU has refused to negotiate on the matter.
    Basically it's a condition for access to the single European market.
    So the only way to really stop EU migration is to agree not to access the European Single Market.
    Lets see what the Swiss decide to do.
    But given that 45% of UK exports go to the European single market area, for the UK to not have access to the single European market (or to have tariffs imposed) would be economically very difficult indeed.

    PS Don't blame the messenger as some on here tend to do. The above is all factual.
    Fair point
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #3
      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
      Brexiteers point to Norway and Switzerland as models we should aspire to - not realising that in both countries the right of freedom of movement for EU nationals exist.
      In both those countries per capita European migration is higher than the UK.
      Switzerland recently voted in a referendum to stop free EU movement, but the EU has refused to negotiate on the matter.
      Basically it's a condition for access to the single European market.
      So the only way to really stop EU migration is to agree not to access the European Single Market.
      Lets see what the Swiss decide to do.
      But given that 45% of UK exports go to the European single market area, for the UK to not have access to the single European market (or to have tariffs imposed) would be economically very difficult indeed.

      PS Don't blame the messenger as some on here tend to do. The above is all factual.
      so Romanian citizens will have free access to the US & Canada after the trade talks?
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #4
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        so Romanian citizens will have free access to the US & Canada after the trade talks?
        If the UK leaves the EU will dismantle and countries like Switzerland will ignore them
        Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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          #5
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          so Romanian citizens will have free access to the US & Canada after the trade talks?
          No they won't. What's your point?
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #6
            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            No they won't. What's your point?
            would of thought it would be obvious. but here we go.

            If the US & Canada can get access to the EU without free movement why can't we?
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #7
              Originally posted by vetran View Post
              would of thought it would be obvious. but here we go.

              If the US & Canada can get access to the EU without free movement why can't we?

              Would have thought it obvious but here we go.

              Because the US (and Canada)is about the size of the EU and have much more clout than the UK alone.
              Hard Brexit now!
              #prayfornodeal

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                #8
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                would HAVE thought it would be obvious. but here we go.

                If the US & Canada can get access to the EU without free movement why can't we?
                They get access but not quota-free, tarrif-free, duty-free and tax-free access...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                  If the UK leaves the EU will dismantle and countries like Switzerland will ignore them
                  Nope they won't. In spite of vocal and noisy minorities everywhere, the majority want the EU to continue. In the larger countries of Germany, France and Italy anyway.
                  Anyway Switzerland needs Europe to trade with.
                  Hard Brexit now!
                  #prayfornodeal

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                    Would have thought it obvious but here we go.

                    Because the US (and Canada)is about the size of the EU and have much more clout than the UK alone.
                    Booming Britain to become world's fourth largest economy as France and Italy face G8 exclusion - Telegraph


                    oh where is Canada?
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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