Brexit or not, it's time to dismantle the NHS

[sasguru]

There's a reason why no-one in Europe copied it - its a turd of a Soviet system and we're increasingly suffering because of it.
Not even France who you could hardly accuse of wholeheartedly embracing raw capitalism.
Instead the French sensibly invented a pragmatic system that looked after the poor as well as the rich through a public-private system.
Yet if you hear the left whining about the NHS, you'd think we had invented the nirvana of health, a perfected system that must not be touched at any cost.
The cretinism of these lefty morons is only matched by the imbecility of the hooray-henry posh boys at the other end of the spectrum.

[DodgyAgent]

There's a reason why no-one in Europe copied it - its a turd of a Soviet system and we're increasingly suffering because of it.
Not even France who you could hardly accuse of wholeheartedly embracing raw capitalism.
Instead the French sensibly invented a pragmatic system that looked after the poor as well as the rich through a public-private system.
Yet if you hear the left whining about the NHS, you'd think we had invented the nirvana of health, a perfected system that must not be touched at any cost.
The cretinism of these lefty morons is only matched by the imbecility of the hooray-henry posh boys at the other end of the spectrum.

[BrilloPad]

Hopefully the next time you are in hospital, DNR will be added to your notes.

[DimPrawn]

Political suicide to even hint at the possibility on not making the NHS even bigger and more inefficient than it already is.

[BrilloPad]

Political suicide to even hint at the possibility on not making the NHS even bigger and more inefficient than it already is.

I wonder what Nye Bevin would make of cosmetic surgery being provided.

[sasguru]

Hopefully the next time you are in hospital, DNR will be added to your notes.

You know Brillo, your problems have been totally caused by the imbecility you display in abundance on this forum.
It's the kids I feel sorry for, since you were selfish enough to breed.

[sasguru]

Political suicide to even hint at the possibility on not making the NHS even bigger and more inefficient than it already is.

Well the Tories better get on with it, while Corbyn is still playing silly buggers.

[Old Greg]

I wonder what Nye Bevin would make of cosmetic surgery being provided.

To put it in context:

Availability of cosmetic surgery

Cosmetic surgery is rarely available through the NHS. There must be a major physical or psychological reason for needing the surgery. For example, in rare cases it may be required for health reasons.
Most people pay to have cosmetic surgery carried out privately because NHS resources are limited and waiting times are usually long.
GP referral
See your GP if you're considering having cosmetic surgery. They can discuss your options with you and advise you about the possibility of having the procedure on the NHS.
If your GP thinks cosmetic surgery may be a suitable treatment option for you, they will refer you to a consultant who will decide whether NHS-funded surgery is appropriate. Before making a decision, the consultant may ask you to have a psychological assessment.
If you decide to have cosmetic surgery at a private hospital or clinic, it's still advisable for you to be referred by a GP. They can give you general advice and information about surgery, and can discuss whether there's anything in your medical history that may need to be taken into account.
Being referred to a surgeon by your GP as a private patient also means the surgeon carrying out the procedure will have access to your medical records.
Cosmetic surgery through the NHS
Whether a cosmetic procedure is provided on the NHS is decided by local NHS clinical commissioning groups (CCGs).
There are a few cases where a CCG may feel a cosmetic procedure should be available on the NHS, such as:
breast implants to treat severe underdevelopment or asymmetry (lopsidedness)
breast reduction to treat back pain or shoulder pain
nose reshaping (rhinoplasty) to treat breathing problems
tummy tucks to remove excess fat or skin after essential abdominal surgery
eyelid reduction to treat affected vision
However, NHS resources are limited and waiting times for these types of surgery are usually long.

Cosmetic surgery - Availability - NHS Choices

[Chuck]

The NHS is perfect. Giving it more money will make it even more perfect.

All the people who work for the NHS are angels and do so purely out of the goodness of their hearts.

[OwlHoot]

There's a reason why no-one in Europe copied it - its a turd of a Soviet system and we're increasingly suffering because of it.
Not even France who you could hardly accuse of wholeheartedly embracing raw capitalism.
Instead the French sensibly invented a pragmatic system that looked after the poor as well as the rich through a public-private system.
Yet if you hear the left whining about the NHS, you'd think we had invented the nirvana of health, a perfected system that must not be touched at any cost.

The cretinism of these lefty morons is only matched by the imbecility of the hooray-henry posh boys at the other end of the spectrum.

At last, a Sas post I can heartily agree with.

Not sure I like ending a sentence with "with", so let's try that one again. ...

At last, a Sas post with the like of which that I can heartily agree.

Better?