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I don't want to be governed by broadly socialist policies and approx. 60% of UK laws are currently set by the EU.
We can't set policies because what we want is broadly different to most of the other countries.
We do not directly elect EU politicians and cannot as a nation kick out the ones in situ.
Immigration is a lesser point as we need to sort out non EU as well as EU.
Economics is a lesser point as originally we signed up to trade, not to being governed.
That's about it.
I probably feel the same way about the EU as the Scots devolutionists do about the UK. They don't want to be ruled by a government they can't kick out by themselves. The only difference is that no one called them 'little Scotlanders' but hailed them as champions of independence.
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostI don't want to be governed by broadly socialist policies and approx. 60% of UK laws are currently set by the EU.
We can't set policies because what we want is broadly different to most of the other countries.Official EU voting records* show that the British government has voted ‘No’ to laws passed at EU level on 56 occasions, abstained 70 times, and voted ‘Yes’ 2,466 times since 1999, according to UK in a Changing Europe Fellows Sara Hagemann and Simon Hix.
In other words, UK ministers were on the “winning side” 95% of the time, abstained 3% of the time, and were on the losing side 2%.
We do not directly elect EU politicians and cannot as a nation kick out the ones in situ.
There you are. I've picked apart your reasons in 10 seconds so I assume you'll now be voting remain?Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostOnly 60%? I thought it was meant to be 75%? I bet you can't name any that affect you though. All the important laws that we live by come from London.
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts...-uk-influence/
We do directly elect EU politicians, and just like in the UK other key positions are appointed by and answerable to the PM. As a nation we can't kick out a sitting UK government either; only MPs and The Queen can do that.
There you are. I've picked apart your reasons in 10 seconds so I assume you'll now be voting remain?
Unfortunately we don't win the votes that count, such as movement of EU citizens.
We don't as a UK entity have the ability to kick out the unelected EU leadership. In the same way as the Scots by themselves don't have the ability to kick out the Tories by themselves.
Your arguments are weak, at best. And as usual for a Remainer, you have focussed on negatives as you have nothing positive to say.
Tell me how we will look under the EU in 10 years time.Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostUnfortunately we don't win the votes that count, such as movement of EU citizens.
We don't as a UK entity have the ability to kick out the unelected EU leadership. In the same way as the Scots by themselves don't have the ability to kick out the Tories by themselves.
Your arguments are weak, at best. And as usual for a Remainer, you have focussed on negatives as you have nothing positive to say.
But positives: economy, trade, opportunities for British people to live and work abroad. Those are pretty significant.
Tell me how we will look under the EU in 10 years time.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostDiscuss.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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