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    Munich to Berlin under 4 hours

    Not long to go now. Favoured this journey over the plane more than a few times but over six hours does get tedious. Under 4hrs is maddening.

    I wonder if HS2 Birmingham will cost €90 return to London for the 126 mile journey let alone a 360 mile journey!

    New train line to cut 2 hours off Berlin-Munich trips - The Local

    New train line to cut 2 hours off Berlin-Munich trips

    New train line to cut 2 hours off Berlin-Munich trips
    It has been 25 years in the making, but on Wednesday the rail line that is set to mark a new era for travel between Germany's capital and its economic powerhouse went live.
    People who travel between between Berlin and Munich these days have to grapple with the impossible decision of choosing between an expensive flight, a cheap but crowded bus, or a pricey and slow train journey.

    The current train route wanders all the way over to Frankfurt am Main before cutting back into northern Bavaria and down to Munich. It takes about six hours and ten minutes, hardly value for a ticket that costs somewhere between €75 and €120.

    Since a bus normally costs around €20 and only takes an hour more, many people choose to stick to the road.

    But that could all be about to change.

    A new rail line through the Thuringian Forest has just been completed and, when it opens to the public, it is set to take the train ride down to a little less than four hours, the Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) reports.

    On Wednesday the electric lines above the tracks finally went live - and with construction finished, testing is set to begin.

    The line has been a long time in the making.

    First planned in 1991 as part of the “Travel Project for German Unity” - a scheme of linking up east and west German travel infrastructure after reunification - it was supposed to be finished before the turn of the century.

    But ballooning costs meant that the Social Democratic government put it on ice in 1999 and it was only rebooted in 2006 after Chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU got back into power.

    When the final touches are put in place over the next few months, the project will have costed €10 billion - more than double the original budget, the SZ reports.

    It is quite a feat of construction though - trains will cross over 29 bridges and go through 22 tunnels. In fact, during the roughly half hour spent on the new piece of track, trains will be inside tunnels for ten minutes.

    Story continues below…
    The opening date for the public is scheduled for December 2017. But before then there is still a lot to do. First, special test trains will drive the 107 km route, at first slowly and then ever faster, to check the strength of the track.

    The line that it will be connected with also needs to be beefed up to include four adjacent sets of track.

    Then at long last people travelling between Germany’s two most important cities won’t need to spend hours deciding whether to take the bus or the plane - and they’ll save time travelling too.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

    #2
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Not long to go now. Favoured this journey over the plane more than a few times but over six hours does get tedious. Under 4hrs is maddening.

    I wonder if HS2 Birmingham will cost €90 return to London for the 126 mile journey let alone a 360 mile journey!

    New train line to cut 2 hours off Berlin-Munich trips - The Local
    Probably if people bother to book in advance, yes. I've just checked National Rail's journey planner and I can get from Manchester to London for £26.50 if I book a couple of weeks in advance.

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      #3
      Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
      Probably if people bother to book in advance, yes. I've just checked National Rail's journey planner and I can get from Manchester to London for £26.50 if I book a couple of weeks in advance.
      Never book more than 3-4 days ahead for a train ticket.

      What is this advance business you speak of? Have UK trains adopted the easyjet business model or something?
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #4
        Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
        Never book more than 3-4 days ahead for a train ticket.

        What is this advance business you speak of? Have UK trains adopted the easyjet business model or something?
        It's been the case since I was a kid, and that's a few years back now. It's £36 for Manchester to London this Tuesday. As with Easyjet, it depends on time and day. Feel free to play with your imaginary UK journeys here:

        National Rail Enquiries

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          #5
          Apart from crap like is happening with Southern now, I've always thought rail travel in the UK was fine.
          Some old rolling stock but that's everywhere.
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #6
            I won't use a train again. Having found out that MF uses them....

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              #7
              The reason it works in Germany is bevause they don't have rich Con MPs whose mansion country views will be upset with the new train line....

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                #8
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                The reason it works in Germany is bevause they don't have rich Con MPs whose mansion country views will be upset with the new train line....
                You do realise it's not 1850?

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                  #9
                  Seems as daft as a brush to spend all that money for such a modest incremental journey time improvement

                  Shouldn't they have ripped up the old tracks and installed a state of the art bullet train route that could complete the journey in an hour?

                  Same thing applies to HS2: If you're going to spend billions anyway then do the job properly with genuine 21st century technology!
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                    Seems as daft as a brush to spend all that money for such a modest incremental journey time improvement

                    Shouldn't they have ripped up the old tracks and installed a state of the art bullet train route that could complete the journey in an hour?

                    Same thing applies to HS2: If you're going to spend billions anyway then do the job properly with genuine 21st century technology!
                    If only there were a way for the train to somehow go up in the air over the landscape taking the most direct route without the need to install tracks, build bridges or tunnels or spoiling anyone's view.
                    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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