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sasguru
15th December 2016, 09:04
Have we done this one?

All new police officers in England and Wales to have degrees - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38319283)

In my limited interaction with the rozzers they've always come across as not very bright, so probably a good thing.
Assuming a crap degree is better than nothing.

eek
15th December 2016, 09:05
So they all need £30k+ of debt to ensure suitable control by their ultimate paymasters

vetran
15th December 2016, 09:09
so we are going the same way as with Nurses? Give it 5 years and you will see them stood round the front desk talking about Eastenders.

The_Equalizer
15th December 2016, 09:10
so we are going the same way as with Nurses? Give it 5 years and you will see them stood round the front desk talking about Eastenders.

And teaching, but that went a while back.

sasguru
15th December 2016, 09:26
so we are going the same way as with Nurses? Give it 5 years and you will see them stood round the front desk talking about Eastenders.


And teaching, but that went a while back.

Not to worry, your kids can always become domestic staff.
Plenty of demand as we head back to the Victorian age.

eek
15th December 2016, 09:32
Not to worry, your kids can always become domestic staff.
Plenty of demand as we head back to the Victorian age.

Bollox. We are in a world where education is cheap (free in most cases) if you know where to look.

It's just certificates for people not bright enough to competently check that knowledge that is expensive.

sasguru
15th December 2016, 09:35
Bollox. We are in a world where education is cheap (free in most cases) if you know where to look.

It's just certificates for people not bright enough to competently check that knowledge that is expensive.

Whoosh!:D

VectraMan
15th December 2016, 09:41
The first time I got done for speeding :rolleyes:, I had to go to the police station to hand over my licence. The uniformed police woman behind the desk filled out a form and asked me my Date of Birth which is in June. But I noticed she'd written the month as a 7 on the form. So I said "No June". She looked at me, then looked at the form, looked at me again. I said again "June not July". The she looked more confused and finally picked up the pen again and went over the 7 a couple of times to make sure it was clear.:freaky:

MarillionFan
15th December 2016, 09:45
Have we done this one?

All new police officers in England and Wales to have degrees - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38319283)

In my limited interaction with the rozzers they've always come across as not very bright, so probably a good thing.
Assuming a crap degree is better than nothing.

Well, that means a wholly Indian Police force then.

barrydidit
15th December 2016, 10:22
Well, that means a wholly Indian Police force then.

Easier to bribe at least.

sal
15th December 2016, 10:33
Prospective officers can either complete a three-year "degree apprenticeship", a postgraduate conversion course or a degree.

So just a way to pay them tulip salaries for the first 3 years, or force them into indentured servitude student loans debts.

Platypus
15th December 2016, 10:52
In my limited interaction with the rozzers they've always come across as not very bright

My experience too. I think they come across as not very bright because they're not very bright. Also they're c***s.

SueEllen
15th December 2016, 10:54
My experience too. I think they come across as not very bright because they're not very bright. Also they're c***s.

It takes a "special" kind of person to be a police officer.

sasguru
15th December 2016, 10:57
My experience too. I think they come across as not very bright because they're not very bright. Also they're c***s.

:laugh:laugh

Thanks, that brightened my day.

d000hg
15th December 2016, 11:57
Have we done this one?

All new police officers in England and Wales to have degrees - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38319283)

In my limited interaction with the rozzers they've always come across as not very bright, so probably a good thing.
Assuming a crap degree is better than nothing.It's not 2020 next year ;) You can't just skip most of Trump's first term no matter how much you want to.

d000hg
15th December 2016, 12:01
My experience too. I think they come across as not very bright because they're not very bright. Also they're c***s.Why do you hate the fuzz so much?

They're probably pretty average, brains wise... which is to say not especially bright. I think they're trained NOT to think too much but follow the procedures rigidly. And then most become bitter and expect the worst in everyone because that's what they see day in day out.

Thankless, I don't know why people want to do it unless to have a career advancing up the ranks.

vetran
15th December 2016, 12:03
Why do you hate the fuzz so much?

They're probably pretty average, brains wise... which is to say not especially bright. I think they're trained NOT to think too much but follow the procedures rigidly. And then most become bitter and expect the worst in everyone because that's what they see day in day out.

Thankless, I don't know why people want to do it unless to have a career advancing up the ranks.

would agree with this, a niece was a PCSO and the stories she tells of the Police being an extension of mental health & social services would make your hair curl.

SueEllen
15th December 2016, 12:06
would agree with this, a niece was a PCSO and the stories she tells of the Police being an extension of mental health & social services would make your hair curl.

If you don't spend enough money on one area of social provision then other services e.g. police, firefighters, NHS have to take up the slack.

d000hg
15th December 2016, 12:07
I don't think I know any coppers, a couple of retired officers, but a friend of mine became a PCSO a few years back. She's young and one of the most positive and bubbly people you'd meet... but after only this short time you can sense it being slowly wrung out of her.

meridian
15th December 2016, 12:11
Ex-flat mate in a shared house was in the Met, his stories about cleaning up after jumpers on the tracks were some of the worst I've heard

vetran
15th December 2016, 12:12
If you don't spend enough money on one area of social provision then other services e.g. police, firefighters, NHS have to take up the slack.

Indeed The police were taking up the slack for the others. They frequently had to intervene where people were off their meds or should have been sectioned. The domestics they attended weekly needed the social services to split the family up because nothing was going to get better while they were together or living in that tuliphole.

Now if you fixed them the Police might be able to do a good job.

original PM
15th December 2016, 12:41
The first time I got done for speeding :rolleyes:, I had to go to the police station to hand over my licence. The uniformed police woman behind the desk filled out a form and asked me my Date of Birth which is in June. But I noticed she'd written the month as a 7 on the form. So I said "No June". She looked at me, then looked at the form, looked at me again. I said again "June not July". The she looked more confused and finally picked up the pen again and went over the 7 a couple of times to make sure it was clear.:freaky:

Not sure what degree you can do which teaches the order and number of months in a year - it is more expected knowledge at the age of about 10.

The main problem the police face is pikeys and chavs being pikes and chavs - until people like that are punished severely for the antisocial and threatening behaviour things will not get better.

d000hg
15th December 2016, 12:43
It is seemingly quite hard to punish people who don't have much to lose. Lots of them view a spell in prison as no big deal whereas I imagine everyone here would be terrified at the prospect [of losing several billing days]

Paddy
15th December 2016, 12:45
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original PM
15th December 2016, 12:53
It is seemingly quite hard to punish people who don't have much to lose. Lots of them view a spell in prison as no big deal whereas I imagine everyone here would be terrified at the prospect [of losing several billing days]

Indeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.

vetran
15th December 2016, 13:24
Indeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.

cheer up soon we will chop hands off for stealing...

woohoo
15th December 2016, 13:37
Indeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.

How dare you! This is a modern era, we don't lash people. Now, if you fit a chip in the back of their head that delivers electric shocks, well then I'm with you.

Paddy
15th December 2016, 13:38
Indeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.



Last Friday, [14 March 1817] a woman of the name of Grant, was flogged through the streets of Inverness, we understand for the third time, (once the previous week,) for intoxication and bad behaviour in the streets. No doubt example is necessary, and was here made with the best intention; yet public and repeated flagellation on the naked body of a woman, is revolting to our general ideas of decency and humanity; it is to be regretted, that some equally effectual punishment could not be fallen upon.

Public flogging, UK, March 1817 - CORPUN ARCHIVE ukj81703 (http://www.corpun.com/ukj81703.htm#16384)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellation



The Whipping Act was passed in England in 1530. Under this legislation, vagrants were to be taken to a nearby populated area "and there tied to the end of a cart naked and beaten with whips throughout such market town till the body shall be bloody".[1]
In England, offenders (mostly those convicted of theft) were usually sentenced to be flogged "at a cart's tail" along a length of public street, usually near the scene of the crime, "until his [or her] back be bloody". In the late seventeenth century, however, the courts occasionally ordered that the flogging should be carried out in prison or a house of correction rather than on the streets. From the 1720s courts began explicitly to differentiate between private whipping and public whipping. Over the course of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries the proportion of whippings carried out in public declined, but the number of private whippings increased. The public whipping of women was abolished in 1817 (after having been in decline since the 1770s) and that of men ended in the early 1830s, though not formally abolished until 1862. Private whipping of men in prison continued and was not abolished until 1948.[2]

northernladyuk
15th December 2016, 14:00
And teaching, but that went a while back.

This 'expertise' is all nonsense. When the old man had his reassignment surgery we went for an old school barber surgeon. He was butchered, but we saved enough for a cheap pair of implants.

northernladyuk
15th December 2016, 14:03
cheer up soon we will chop hands off for stealing...

Once we're free from EUSSR oppression, possibilities open up like Sas's anus on pension day.

VectraMan
15th December 2016, 14:06
Public flogging, UK, March 1817 - CORPUN ARCHIVE ukj81703 (http://www.corpun.com/ukj81703.htm#16384)

Surely the Game of Thrones style Walk of Atonement would be less barbaric but probably still work quite well.

vetran
15th December 2016, 15:12
Once we're free from EUSSR oppression, possibilities open up like Sas's anus on pension day.


not sure whether to :laugh or :puke:

northernladyuk
15th December 2016, 15:14
not sure whether to :laugh or :puke:

For €5, either or both is fine for Sas.

vetran
15th December 2016, 15:20
For €5, either or both is fine for Sas.

Damn Brexit the price has gone up!