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    The Poll Tax

    And guess who got threatened with a fine?

    Oh that schadenfreude is a right bitch.

    Along with hubris.

    http://www.itv.com/news/2016-12-30/m...ying-poll-tax/

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      #3
      How London has changed

      Poll Tax riots 1989



      London Riots 2016

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pict...he-police.html

      Now if only we had a register of everyone in the UK?
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #4
        So, anybody would care to explain why poll tax was unfair, but council tax somehow isn't?

        25% council tax discount for single occupancy, no discount for unfurnished empty flat, surely "poll tax" thingy could not have been possibly any worse?

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          #5
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          So, anybody would care to explain why poll tax was unfair, but council tax somehow isn't?

          25% council tax discount for single occupancy, no discount for unfurnished empty flat, surely "poll tax" thingy could not have been possibly any worse?
          Firstly remember most of local government funding comes from Central government so the amount raised locally is only a fraction of what councils spend. This means regardless of what tax method is used it's just a way of central government getting you to blame local councillors particularly if they are a different political party.

          Anyway Poll Tax picked on poorer people who are more likely to have several adults living in a small property. It didn't take into account the value of the property.

          Council tax was a fudge to save the government after the riots. If they wanted to be fair they would have done a land value tax. However they won't do this as MPs are in the group who would pay more.
          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #6
            Originally posted by zeitghost
            Well you had the fairness of Dukes paying the same poll tax as their tenants.

            And it really get the hoi polloi roiled up, especially the hoi polloi north of the border who were the first victims and have never ceased so to tell us.
            I remember watching interviews about it a few months ago. Some of the most vocal campaigners were the lovely folk in Mrs May's constituency and they weren't young either.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #7
              Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
              Anyway Poll Tax picked on poorer people who are more likely to have several adults living in a small property. It didn't take into account the value of the property.
              Sounds very fair to me - local services (garbage generated) are dependent on number of people, rather than value of property, right?

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                #8
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Sounds very fair to me - local services (garbage generated) are dependent on number of people, rather than value of property, right?
                Personal taxation in the UK has always been progressive which forms part of the social contract with the state. As the poll tax broke this principle even the wealthly in Windsor and Maidenhead revolted.

                In addition, like with the arguments over voter ID, it was argued the intention was to stop poorer people voting.

                Students and the unemployed are exempted from council tax but they weren't from the Poll Tax - they had to pay 20%- so loads of people went missing of the electoral roll. (Though being registered for Poll Tax didn't automatically put you on the electoral roll, they just crossed checked Poll Tax register with the electoral register.)

                Finally it's very simple to view local services costs more for more people. In areas with loads of second homes people pay their council tax but due to the lack of people actually living in the area full-time services are reduced.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by zeitghost View Post
                  And guess who got threatened with a fine?

                  Oh that schadenfreude is a right bitch.

                  Along with hubris.

                  Margaret Thatcher was almost fined for not registering for poll tax - ITV News
                  But not to forget she was a great PM and made the country much stronger, until the Labour luddites got into power...
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kaiser78 View Post
                    But not to forget she was a great PM and made the country much stronger, until the Labour luddites got into power...
                    Blame John Major and the Tories after her.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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