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Welcome to "Negotiating capital"

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    Welcome to "Negotiating capital"

    "The UK would lose “negotiating capital” in Europe if it unilaterally granted EU citizens the right to remain after Brexit, the government has said.

    In a letter to a group of EU citizens from the office of the home secretary, Amber Rudd, the government said it “recognises that EU nationals make an invaluable contribution to our economy and society”.

    However, in an apparent hardening of the official position, the letter warned that the government cannot do anything to address their position after Brexit until it has assurances that British citizens in Europe will receive reciprocal protection in the country where they have settled.

    “Agreeing a unilateral position in advance of these negotiations would lose negotiating capital with respect to British citizens in EU member states and place the UK at an immediate disadvantage,” said the letter signed by Peter Grant, an official in the free movement policy team of the immigration and border policy directorate of the Home Office. "

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-office-letter


    #2
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    the letter warned that the government cannot do anything to address their position after Brexit until it has assurances that British citizens in Europe will receive reciprocal protection in the country where they have settled.
    Sounds fair enough.
    “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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      #3
      Yes, why would we agree to let them all stay unless Spain promises to keep all of the OAPs we've sent them over the years

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        #4
        Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
        Sounds fair enough.
        We did offer an early agreement but no negotiation without notification and the rules must be adhered to regardless of how much discomfort that causes EU nationals.

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          #5
          Originally posted by GB9 View Post
          We did offer an early agreement but no negotiation without notification and the rules must be adhered to regardless of how much discomfort that causes EU nationals.
          "‘main cards in the negotiations’, ‘bargaining chips’ and now ‘negotiating capital’".

          Govts can't negotiate with terrorists, perhaps it's time to start a new epic thread - EU hostages, should they run or will they get freed...

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            #6
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            "‘main cards in the negotiations’, ‘bargaining chips’ and now ‘negotiating capital’".

            Govts can't negotiate with terrorists, perhaps it's time to start a new epic thread - EU hostages, should they run or will they get freed...
            Which is why we tried to get reciprocal arrangements sorted before triggering article 50 so there was no suggestion we were using them as hostages but the "Red Tape Army" said no, it expected every EU citizen in the UK to sacrifice themselves for the Federal Motherland shouting remember Maastricht!
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #7
              Originally posted by vetran View Post
              Which is why we tried to get reciprocal arrangements
              I just told you that EU Govts can't negotiate with hostage takers!

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                #8
                I thought our "negotiating capital" lay in the fact that the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU? Pretty sure they were peddling some such line until very recently.

                Still, nice to see HMG has abandoned that particular load of bollocks and switched to threatening hostages instead. That always works

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  I just told you that EU Govts can't negotiate with hostage takers!
                  you obviously don't read posts.
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                    I thought our "negotiating capital" lay in the fact that the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU? Pretty sure they were peddling some such line until very recently.

                    Still, nice to see HMG has abandoned that particular load of bollocks and switched to threatening hostages instead. That always works
                    How can they be hostages if they can leave?

                    And as the EU won't discuss UK passport holders status in the EU, what are they classed as? Visitors?

                    I'm afraid your Stalinist state is to blame.

                    I'm starting to think ATW was actually in favour of the USSR and only came to the EU when it broke up. He's now in fear the EU, which is really the same as the USSR, will also split. Desperation stakes.

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