Iraq - The End game

[sasguru]

So a "phased withdrawal", followed by a civil war, followed by a puppet Iranian government.

Nice one, Dubya and Tone.

[Mailman]

No, thats thanks to the anti-war goons who would rather cut and run than stick it out and stick it up them fundie peace loving muslims...and thanks to you too!

Mailman

[sasguru]

No, thats thanks to the anti-war goons who would rather cut and run than stick it out and stick it up them fundie peace loving muslims...and thanks to you too!

Mailman

Why do you think "sticking it out" will have any other outcome? The Vietnam war lasted about a decade with the same outcome...
Face it, it was a stupid thing to do.

[AtW]

No, thats thanks to the anti-war goons

You had almost 4 years to win it, anti-war goons like me did not exactly go there fight on the side of insurgents, we just said it will fail and it did fail - it took almost as much time to beat Nazi Germany, so don't whine that you did not have enough time.

[shaunbhoy]

The Coalition have not failed. Their game plan was to remove Saddam Hussein. That was done. We have also helped the Iraqis have free and democratic elections and given all the advice they should require to move on from here. The fact they have chosen to start indiscriminately slaughtering each other instead is no fault of the Coalition forces who have struggled manfully to address this barbarity. However, no point helping those that will not help themselves, time to rev up and fook off.

[sasguru]

The Coalition have not failed. Their game plan was to remove Saddam Hussein. That was done. We have also helped the Iraqis have free and democratic elections and given all the advice they should require to move on from here. The fact they have chosen to start indiscriminately slaughtering each other instead is no fault of the Coalition forces who have struggled manfully to address this barbarity. However, no point helping those that will not help themselves, time to rev up and fook off.

Nonsense.

[shaunbhoy]

Nonsense.

Like YOU would know!!

[AtW]

Let me just remind the countries who took part in the Coalition of the Willing:

“Coalition of the Willing” Members
2001 population
(millions)
1 Albania
2 Armenia
3 Australia
4 Azerbaijan
5 Bahrain
6 Bulgaria
7 Costa Rica
8 Croatia
9 Czech Republic
10 Denmark
11 Estonia
12 Georgia
13 Hungary
14 Israel
15 Italy
16 Japan
17 Jordan
18 Kuwait
19 Latvia
20 Lithuania
21 Macedonia
22 Oman
23 Philippines
24 Poland
25 Portugal
26 Qatar
27 Romania
28 Saudia Arabia
29 Slovakia
30 Slovenia
31 Spain
32 Turkey
33 United Arab Emirates
34 United Kingdom

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I am sure 150k Iraquies kill, and 450k injuried in the last few years fully appreciate the fact that Saddam is not in power. No doubt mullahs of Iran would have gladly joined the above list if they knew what it would lead to: probably resurrected state of Persia.

[snaw]

No, thats thanks to the anti-war goons who would rather cut and run than stick it out and stick it up them fundie peace loving muslims...and thanks to you too!

Mailman

What exactly are we supposed to be sticking it out for MM? Care to enlighten us why we're still there?

As far as I recall we didn't find any WOMD, I'm not hopefully of seeing democracy spread like wildfire in the region as promised, and I don't think we're any further forward in our war against terror (Quite the reverse).

In fact in every respect this invasion truly has been a disaster, with the only positive I can take from it - getting rid of Saddam - isntt looking quite so positive from the perspective of the 100,000 (Conservative estimate) Iraqis who've died, not too mention our boys as well, any more.

[swamp]

Actually, the Coalition of the Willing list in 2003 of nations which "are prepared to be publicly associated with the US action against Iraq" reads:

Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.