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scooterscot
30th January 2017, 16:44
Low taxes, high prices, freedom to manoeuvre with big infrastructure projects like their recently completed longest tunnel in the world?

vetran
30th January 2017, 16:48
Look it took us ages to get rid of NAT :wink

northernladyuk
30th January 2017, 16:53
Swaziland will be a closer model.

Paddy
30th January 2017, 17:08
Low taxes, high prices, freedom to manoeuvre with big infrastructure projects like their recently completed longest tunnel in the world?

All fat cows to ware bells?

scooterscot
30th January 2017, 19:05
Swaziland will be a closer model.

I think so. Switzerland enjoys a debt to GDP of 34%. Meanwhile in Wrexit land it's a horrific 90%. A number that'll only increase surely when the cost of leaving the EU is included.

Bee
30th January 2017, 20:40
I don't think so.

I would like to see Switzerland without banks with anonymous accounts from terrorists, tax evasion and money laundry.

darmstadt
30th January 2017, 20:45
I don't think so.

I would like to see Switzerland without banks with anonymous accounts from terrorists, tax evasion and money laundry.

They're getting there:

OECD deal means 'end of Swiss banking secrecy' - The Local (http://www.thelocal.ch/20131015/oecd-deal-means-end-of-swiss-bank-secrecy)
European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Fighting tax evasion: EU and Switzerland sign historic tax transparency agreement (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5043_en.htm)

But this could cause problems as then the money is just being transferred to trusts primarily in the UK and US which are well known ways of hiding such funds: Le Matin, l'actualité en direct: Suisse, sports, people, faits divers, politique, économie, techno, auto (http://www.lematin.ch/actu/-debat/myret-zaki-suisse-fait-235019/)

NotAllThere
30th January 2017, 20:53
Does the UK desire be like Switzerland after Brexit?

Not possible. Not enough cuckoo clocks and UK chocolate is technically cheese.

Bee
30th January 2017, 20:58
They're getting there:

OECD deal means 'end of Swiss banking secrecy' - The Local (http://www.thelocal.ch/20131015/oecd-deal-means-end-of-swiss-bank-secrecy)
European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Fighting tax evasion: EU and Switzerland sign historic tax transparency agreement (http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5043_en.htm)

But this could cause problems as then the money is just being transferred to trusts primarily in the UK and US which are well known ways of hiding such funds: Le Matin, l'actualité en direct: Suisse, sports, people, faits divers, politique, économie, techno, auto (http://www.lematin.ch/actu/-debat/myret-zaki-suisse-fait-235019/)

Basterds. :mad

greenlake
30th January 2017, 21:04
Not enough cuckoo clocks

It's all about the quality, not the quantity....

http://i.imgur.com/WGyouvr.jpg

alreadypacked
31st January 2017, 07:12
UK was selling it's self as the low wage economy of Europe.
In Switzerland they will not give you a work permit if the wages are not high enough.

There are many aspects to how a country economy works, you can't take a small number of them and hope to reproduce the what other countries have done.

LondonManc
31st January 2017, 09:33
It's all about the quality, not the quantity....

http://i.imgur.com/WGyouvr.jpg

That's brilliant. They've captured Stevie Me mid-slip as the centre piece. :yay:

PurpleGorilla
31st January 2017, 10:11
The uk desires to be like the UK after Brexit.

VectraMan
31st January 2017, 10:15
The uk desires to be like the UK after Brexit.

Still inside the EU?

northernladyuk
31st January 2017, 10:16
The uk desires to be like the UK after a red, white and blue Brexit-meaning Brexit.

FTFY

PurpleGorilla
31st January 2017, 10:43
Still inside the EU?

In or Out - Shake it all about.

We are still the country that produced Shakespeare, Newton, Whittle, and Berners-Lee.

We were a great country, are a great country, and will be a great country.

Why should we be anybody but ourselves?

scooterscot
31st January 2017, 10:52
We should be more like Newton?

1. He did not play well with others.
2. He had mommy issues.
3. He liked old school religion.

Good got man, you first.

Did you think it was great when the British empire sailed around the world conquering lands belong to the indigenous population?

SueEllen
31st January 2017, 11:02
We should be more like Newton?

1. He did not play well with others.
2. He had mommy issues.
3. He liked old school religion.

Good got man, you first.

Did you think it was great when the British empire sailed around the world conquering lands belong to the indigenous population?

Of course he does it brought civilisation and Christianity to the masses. Though if he looks at what happened to the First Nations in Canada and the Aborigines in Australia, which he can easily find documentaries, on he may have a different view.

PurpleGorilla
31st January 2017, 11:16
We should be more like Newton?

1. He did not play well with others.
2. He had mommy issues.
3. He liked old school religion.

Good got man, you first.

Did you think it was great when the British empire sailed around the world conquering lands belong to the indigenous population?

The a World Wide Web provides information, connectivity, knowledge, entertainment to millions. By your logic it is terrible, because it is also useful to criminals.

The world is not black and white.

All nations have a past. Look at Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain, Cambodia etc.

scooterscot
31st January 2017, 11:21
All nations have a past. Look at Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain, Cambodia etc.

What's your point then? We should be more like our past? Our great past?

LondonManc
31st January 2017, 11:23
What's your point then? We should be more like our past? Our great past?

What's this "our"? You've left. :p

NigelJK
31st January 2017, 11:24
from terrorists, tax evasion and money laundry.

They now buy properties in London, via offshore 'trusts'.

scooterscot
31st January 2017, 11:25
What's this "our"? You've left. :p

Well the water was rising above my ankles :p

LondonManc
31st January 2017, 11:33
Well the water was rising above my ankles :p

It was Irn Bru, not rusty water.

sasguru
31st January 2017, 11:40
We were a great country, are a great country, and will be a great country.






All nations have a past. Look at Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain, Cambodia etc.

You're contradicting yourself. Spain had a great past and may yet have a great future, but no one would say it's great now.
Just another European ex-big power, like the UK.
Past greatness does not imply future greatness, civilisations rise and fall.

PurpleGorilla
31st January 2017, 12:01
You're contradicting yourself. Spain had a great past and may yet have a great future, but no one would say it's great now.
Just another European ex-big power, like the UK.
Past greatness does not imply future greatness, civilisations rise and fall.

Spain has had some shady moments in its history, but you are right it was, is, and will be a great country.

Being in or out of the EU doesn't define us. We were, are, and will be the UK (well who knows about that).

The point is that we are who we are. We are not Switzerland or Spain. Why must we homogenise?

northernladyuk
31st January 2017, 12:03
Spain has had some shady moments in its history, but you are right it was, is, and will be a great country.

Being in or out of the EU doesn't define us. We were, are, and will be the UK (well who knows about that).

The point is that we are who we are. We are not Switzerland or Spain. Why must we homogenise?

#cretinwatch

darmstadt
31st January 2017, 13:16
We are still the country that produced Shakespeare, Newton, Whittle, and Berners-Lee.



And where was all his important work performed? Mmmm, an European organisation in...Switzerland.

Bee
31st January 2017, 13:57
Spain has had some shady moments in its history, but you are right it was, is, and will be a great country.

Being in or out of the EU doesn't define us. We were, are, and will be the UK (well who knows about that).

The point is that we are who we are. We are not Switzerland or Spain. Why must we homogenise?

Are you nuts!!!

Uk is better than Spain.

The UK can't be compared with pirates that still invading our waters for fishing, try to steal tonnes of fruits from our farms, maintain an out of date nuclear power plant in Almaraz, planning to construct a nuclear trash near the Tagus river without an environment impact assessment ...

They were born pirates and they will die as Pirates. Nothing good from there...

LondonManc
31st January 2017, 13:59
Are you nuts!!!

Uk is better than Spain.

The UK can't be compared with pirates that still invading our waters for fishing, try to steal tonnes of fruits from our farms, maintain an out of date nuclear power plant in Almaraz, planning to construct a nuclear trash near the Tagus river without an environment impact assessment ...

They were born pirates and they will die as Pirates. Nothing good from there...

Ander Herrera, Juan Mata and David De Gea.

Mordac
31st January 2017, 13:59
Well the water was rising above my ankles :p

That's Scottish weather for you...

vetran
31st January 2017, 14:57
And where was all his important work performed? Mmmm, an European organisation in...Switzerland.

what do you expect in a country that didn't even invent cuckoo clocks? They have to import experts, if the world ever needs an expert on how to paint your letterbox just the right colour I bet they will appoint a swiss chappie.

scooterscot
31st January 2017, 15:57
I ordered some light bulbs a wee while ago from Switzerland (fancy ones like, don't ask) about €170 worth. They were custom made. Anyways when DHL delivered the goods I was given a €45 import tax invoice before the goods could be handed over. But still I buy the odd thing from that way... nearly always because they specialise in that area or the quality is amazing.

I'm sure the UK can turn things around from a low wage economy to a high quality high wage export industry in a few months. Dyson will be returning his manufacturing base to England as quick as a whip, just you wait. And wait. And wait...

original PM
31st January 2017, 16:51
The a World Wide Web provides information, connectivity, knowledge, entertainment to millions. By your logic it is terrible, because it is also useful to criminals.

The world is not black and white.

All nations have a past. Look at Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain, Cambodia etc.

Well actually modern Germany was formed in the 17th ish century. So they have as much history as the yanks.

You want history look at the UK, Italy, France.

Maybe the Greeks too.

darmstadt
31st January 2017, 17:00
Well actually modern Germany was formed in the 17th ish century. So they have as much history as the yanks.

You want history look at the UK, Italy, France.

Maybe the Greeks too.

What about the Arabs? Didn't they have a big influence on our alphabet and numbering system?

VectraMan
31st January 2017, 17:36
Well actually modern Germany was formed in the 17th ish century. So they have as much history as the yanks.

You want history look at the UK, Italy, France.

Maybe the Greeks too.

UK has only been around since 1707, though that is earlier than Germany which was 1871 so you're only wrong by about 200 years.

original PM
31st January 2017, 18:07
What about the Arabs? Didn't they have a big influence on our alphabet and numbering system?

Indeed the Islam religion was very science savvy till about the 11th/12th century

I think

original PM
31st January 2017, 18:09
UK has only been around since 1707, though that is earlier than Germany which was 1871 so you're only wrong by about 200 years.

Ok England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland all have unique cultures brought into being over the last 3000 years.

The UK is just a political and economic construct.

Which as far as I can tell in general respects those cultures and differences.

vetran
31st January 2017, 18:41
What about the Arabs? Didn't they have a big influence on our alphabet and numbering system?

You mean the 'Hindu - Arabic' numbers?

Arabic numerals (http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/HistTopics/Arabic_numerals.html)


The Indian numerals discussed in our article Indian numerals form the basis of the European number systems which are now widely used. However they were not transmitted directly from India to Europe but rather came first to the Arabic/Islamic peoples and from them to Europe. The story of this transmission is not, however, a simple one. The eastern and western parts of the Arabic world both saw separate developments of Indian numerals with relatively little interaction between the two. By the western part of the Arabic world we mean the regions comprising mainly North Africa and Spain. Transmission to Europe came through this western Arabic route, coming into Europe first through Spain.


Also remember Alexander the great invaded most of the known world and spread knowledge on the way, one wonders how much impact he had?