A nutter apparently

[vetran]

Russell Square knifeman pleads guilty to killing tourist | Daily Mail Online

Russell Square killer allowed into UK by European freedom of movement rules stabbed US tourist to death and wounded five others
Zakaria Bulhan, who had moved to London from Norway with his Somali mother, killed an American tourist
Prosecutors accept pleas to lesser charges and court hears he was suffering from a 'psychotic episode'
Police ruled out fears the attack was terror-inspired after his history of mental health issues was examined
Prosecutor says lack of mental health treatment after assessment in London was 'partly behind' attack
Husband of woman killed says if schizophrenic is released to kill again 'the blood will be on our hands'

[original PM]

Russell Square knifeman pleads guilty to killing tourist | Daily Mail Online

He is a murderer and should be treated as such.

Getting cooking board of the whole oooh he is not a murderer or rapist he is mentally ill.

Fookin bollocks leftie cock wombles

[northernladyuk]

He is a murderer and should be treated as such.

Getting cooking board of the whole oooh he is not a murderer or rapist he is mentally ill.

Fookin bollocks leftie cock wombles

Do you think that schizophrenia can never result in diminished responsibility or do you think the mitigation is overused?

[SueEllen]

He is a murderer and should be treated as such.

Getting cooking board of the whole oooh he is not a murderer or rapist he is mentally ill.

Fookin bollocks leftie cock wombles

He's likely to be sentenced to a secure mental hospital until he's no longer a danger to the public. Many mentally ill patients are actually just left in secure hospitals to rot for decades regardless of the length of their original sentence.

Murderers can get 25 years and can be out in much less due to good behaviour.

So yeah it's "fookin bollocks leftie cock wombles" to keep a mentally ill murderer locked up for far longer than a sane murderer.

[northernladyuk]

He's likely to be sentenced to a secure mental hospital until he's no longer a danger to the public. Many mentally ill patients are actually just left in secure hospitals to rot for decades regardless of the length of their original sentence.

Murderers can get 25 years and can be out in much less due to good behaviour.

So yeah it's "fookin bollocks leftie cock wombles" to keep a mentally ill murderer locked up for far longer than a sane murderer.

The court is saying he is not a murderer. Do not mind original pm. He isn't entirely responsible for what he posts.

[original PM]

Do you think that schizophrenia can never result in diminished responsibility or do you think the mitigation is overused?

I believe it is convenient to label people so you can put them in boxes and apply rules to them and completely dehumanise them so you can treat them how you want.

And that is a technique which has been used for centuries to justify treating people differently from your own people.

[northernladyuk]

I believe it is convenient to label people so you can put them in boxes and apply rules to them and completely dehumanise them so you can treat them how you want.

And that is a technique which has been used for centuries to justify treating people differently from your own people.

You haven't really thought this diminished responsibility thing through have you?

[original PM]

You haven't really thought this diminished responsibility thing through have you?

It is a label

We have put him in a box labelled schizophrenia and then we have said that now he is in that box we can apply the label diminished responsibility.

I am not saying any of what you say is wrong I am saying that because you have given him some labels you can now 'understand' why he did it.

The reason you do this is that to not label him is 'scary' as it implies you are not in control.

What is even scarier is that you are not in control but you wish to maintain the illusion of control.

[SueEllen]

It is a label

We have put him in a box labelled schizophrenia and then we have said that now he is in that box we can apply the label diminished responsibility.

I am not saying any of what you say is wrong I am saying that because you have given him some labels you can now 'understand' why he did it.

The reason you do this is that to not label him is 'scary' as it implies you are not in control.

Diminished responsibility equals not in control.

And to some people schizophrenic equals scary.

What is even scarier is that you are not in control but you wish to maintain the illusion of control.

WTF?

[d000hg]

Isn't this just semantics; just as rape implies penetration murder implies the mental faculties to deliberately kill someone and to know you're doing it?

If the perpetrator is dealt with accordingly does it matter what word we use to define their action?