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cojak
30th March 2017, 17:34
Probably the same guys who eek was talking to...

IT contractors behind IR35 calculator to leave HMRC... because of IR35 • The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/it_contractors_who_build_ir35_calculator_to_leave_ because_of_ir35/)

Do they know something (that they passed onto eek)?

davemahon88
30th March 2017, 17:58
Who were the IT Consultancy with 250 contractors on site? Equal experts?

swamp
30th March 2017, 22:54
Good luck replacing all those Scala developers HMRC :rollin:

marius123
31st March 2017, 09:53
Who were the IT Consultancy with 250 contractors on site? Equal experts?

I don't think EE have quite that many. Maybe 150.

ntdmr
3rd April 2017, 11:50
Valtech?
I was going through my old notes from when I was looking for my first contracting job last June and spoke to Valtech about a possible role at HMRC! Passed all the technical tests they just never arranged a face to face interview and I ended up in the public sector elsewhere!

quackhandle
6th April 2017, 20:59
Was chatting to a guy I worked with a year or so back and he's at HMRC and he said over 78% of contractors have left.

The rest of have decided to work inside.

qh

marius123
10th April 2017, 09:11
Was chatting to a guy I worked with a year or so back and he's at HMRC and he said over 78% of contractors have left.

The rest of have decided to work inside.

qh

They didn't lose anything close to that number. It was about 30% in Newcastle and a bit higher in London.

ChimpMaster
10th April 2017, 09:20
In the past few days I've seen a lot of permie jobs come up on Indeed for HMRC in my field of architecture.

BlasterBates
10th April 2017, 09:54
I reckon the main motivation is fear of back taxes. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot return as employees of big outsourcing companies.

quackhandle
10th April 2017, 13:36
They didn't lose anything close to that number. It was about 30% in Newcastle and a bit higher in London.

And you can confirm that? The guy is working at HMRC, so I think he'd have a pretty good idea on numbers.

qh

Nitro
10th April 2017, 19:24
Yup, I know personally that many in HMRC are decided to leave ;-)

marius123
11th April 2017, 10:06
Not sure how I would confirm it.

I know a lot of people who contract for HMRC quite well. I heard a lot of 'estimates' of 70-80% of contractors leaving before the fact and I've since heard lots of people saying not as many left as they expected and a lot went umbrella with increases in rate at the last minute.

I'm very confident about the Newcastle number.

quackhandle
11th April 2017, 20:59
Not sure how I would confirm it.

I know a lot of people who contract for HMRC quite well. I heard a lot of 'estimates' of 70-80% of contractors leaving before the fact and I've since heard lots of people saying not as many left as they expected and a lot went umbrella with increases in rate at the last minute.

I'm very confident about the Newcastle number.

Fair enough, this guy was at Telford I believe.

qh

b r
12th April 2017, 06:51
I've since heard lots of people saying not as many left as they expected and a lot went umbrella with increases in rate at the last minute.

Surely that sentence should say:

I've since heard lots of people saying not as many left as they expected and a lot went umbrella because of increases in rate at the last minute.

BoredBloke
12th April 2017, 10:34
Wonder if that rate increase will compensate for the back taxes HMRC will want?

bobspud
12th April 2017, 16:04
Wonder if that rate increase will compensate for the back taxes HMRC will want?

Or wonder how they will cope when every single contractor uses HMRC's own stupidity to take them to tribunal and get all the back holiday and sick pay...

After all they have been victims of unscrupulous clients using them to avoid employers NI...

:rollin:

northernladuk
12th April 2017, 16:17
The contractors that willingly worked on the tool should be blackballed. Turn coats.

cojak
12th April 2017, 17:01
The contractors that willingly worked on the tool should be blackballed. Turn coats.

They're contractors - if the rate's good you take it.

Expecting contractors to be the conscience is a bit rich...

northernladuk
12th April 2017, 17:02
They're contractors - if the rate's good you take it.

Expecting contractors to be the conscience is a bit rich...

I would have refused and stood with my fellow contractors ;)

WordIsBond
12th April 2017, 18:13
I would have refused and stood behind my fellow contractors with my knife in their backs ;)
FTFY

SlipTheJab
12th April 2017, 19:31
I would have refused and stood with my fellow contractors ;)

Amen comrade, when you go can I have your 28 inch widescreen monitor and swivel chair, It'll be gone by the time you exit the car park!

DotasScandal
12th April 2017, 20:40
They're contractors - if the rate's good you take it.
Expecting contractors to be the conscience is a bit rich...

Think you're mixing up contractors and mercenaries...

quackhandle
12th April 2017, 20:46
The biggest mercenaries at current client co are the permies when it comes to overtime. :eyes

qh