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    The Remainers may know this

    I recently heard that the EU changed the exit rules just after Article 50 was invoked.

    Any EU country wishing to leave, as the UK is, now needs the unanimous consent of every other EU country.

    Is this true? Has the EU effectively sealed the exit, so all other EU countries are trapped with no possibility of escape?
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    #2
    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    I recently heard that the EU changed the exit rules just after Article 50 was invoked.

    Any EU country wishing to leave, as the UK is, now needs the unanimous consent of every other EU country.

    Is this true? Has the EU effectively sealed the exit, so all other EU countries are trapped with no possibility of escape?
    No, No, and No.

    The "Remainers" don't know this because it's not true.

    The rules under the Lisbon treaty were always going to change as was defined in the original treaty. The change actually happened back in 2014.

    The change does not mean unanimous consent is needed, it changed from a weighted voting system that required around 74% of the allocated votes to a Qualified Majority Vote. This was set out in the Treaty of Nice (that we signed) in 2001. It essentially re-weighted the voting to account for more heavily populated countries having a greater percentage of the total EU population, such that any vote would have to get at least 55% of countries in favour and represent at least 62% of the population to be adopted by the council.

    QMV has been a feature of EU voting since it's inception in 1957 and is specifically intended to avoid the need for unanimous votes, preventing individual countries having an effective Veto on any given issue.

    Article 50 does not, and never has, required approval from the EU for a member to leave. The voting rules only apply to any agreements discussed after they have invoked article 50, the same as any other EU business.

    https://secondreading.uk/uncategoriz...h-sovereignty/

    3/10. Must do better.
    "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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      #3
      Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
      I recently heard that the EU changed the exit rules just after Article 50 was invoked.

      Any EU country wishing to leave, as the UK is, now needs the unanimous consent of every other EU country.

      Is this true? Has the EU effectively sealed the exit, so all other EU countries are trapped with no possibility of escape?
      And which right wing post truth media outlet did you read that on?
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #4
        Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
        Is this true?
        No, it's completely false.

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          #5
          Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
          I recently heard that the EU changed the exit rules just after Article 50 was invoked.

          Any EU country wishing to leave, as the UK is, now needs the unanimous consent of every other EU country.

          Is this true? Has the EU effectively sealed the exit, so all other EU countries are trapped with no possibility of escape?
          Did you fall on your head as a child?
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #6
            Originally posted by DaveB View Post
            3/10. Must do better.
            I was going to give you thanks/likes and rep until that last bit.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
              I was going to give you thanks/likes and rep until that last bit.
              "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                #8
                Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                I recently heard that the EU changed the exit rules just after Article 50 was invoked.

                Any EU country wishing to leave, as the UK is, now needs the unanimous consent of every other EU country.

                Is this true? Has the EU effectively sealed the exit, so all other EU countries are trapped with no possibility of escape?
                The rules haven't changed, and they don't really need to change. The rest of the EU are seeing how Britain is being treated, and the mere idea of a 100bn bill for cancelling the direct debit should be enough to deter anyone else from thinking of leaving. Job done, no need for a rule change.
                His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mordac View Post
                  The rules haven't changed, and they don't really need to change. The rest of the EU are seeing how Britain is being treated, and the mere idea of a 100bn bill for cancelling the direct debit should be enough to deter anyone else from thinking of leaving. Job done, no need for a rule change.
                  Please tell us all about this 100bn bill?
                  Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                    Please tell us all about this 100bn bill?
                    In case you haven't heard, it's the figure Juncker came up with (possibly after a particularly long lunch) which he insists has to be paid before we (and anyone else, since he's now set the precedent) can leave.
                    Although imho we should pay him in 1 Euro coins, inserted rectally, and stop paying when he screams loud enough. Or maybe add on a 10% tip...
                    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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