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squarepeg
11th June 2017, 19:20
EU threatens year-long delay in Brexit talks over UK's negotiating stance (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/eu-threatens-year-long-delay-in-brexit-talks-over-uks-negotiating-stance)

If the PM thought only she can waste time, she's in for a surprise...

PurpleGorilla
11th June 2017, 19:24
It really is a complete monumental pile of dog tulip. The whole bloody thing.

AtW
11th June 2017, 19:30
Clock is ticking, EU will gain most with delayed negotiations and especially a lot from "hard" Brexit.

AtW
11th June 2017, 19:30
I voted for Brexit. It really is a complete monumental pile of dog tulip. The whole bloody thing.

FTFY

PurpleGorilla
11th June 2017, 19:34
FTFY

I did vote for brexit. But it seems like I voted for Hotel California.

AtW
11th June 2017, 19:37
I did vote for brexit. But it seems like I voted for Hotel California.

You are like those mugs who supported Bolsheviks, next thing they knew they were on a train to GULAG.

PurpleGorilla
11th June 2017, 19:40
You are like those mugs who supported Bolsheviks, next thing they knew they were on a train to GULAG.

Resistance is fEUtile

squarepeg
11th June 2017, 19:42
It really is a complete monumental pile of dog tulip. The whole bloody thing.

And who do we thank for that?


A DExEU spokesman said: “We have been clear that we want to make a start on negotiations and we continue to engage with official counterparts in the EU and Brussels ahead of the talks commencing.”

No need to rush things, is there? First we have the summer holidays, then the elections in Germany, then the Conservative Party Conference... and then it will be almost Christmas time... time flies when you're doing nothing.

PurpleGorilla
11th June 2017, 19:45
And who do we thank for that?

See you later, bye!

http://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/cameron1.jpg

Given that brexit was polling 30-40% consistently for a year, HE SHOULD OF HAD A RUDIMENTARY PLAN.

northernladyuk
11th June 2017, 19:55
Clock is ticking, EU will gain most with delayed negotiations and especially a lot from "hard" Brexit.

The EU will just be glad to be shot of the UK.

squarepeg
11th June 2017, 19:55
See you later, bye!

http://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/cameron1.jpg

Given that brexit was polling 30-40% consistently for a year, HE SHOULD OF HAD A RUDIMENTARY PLAN.

If there was no plan why did people vote? What does it tell us about the 52%-ers?

PurpleGorilla
11th June 2017, 20:05
If there was no plan why did people vote? What does it tell us about the 52%-ers?

More of the same tulip

Vs

Hope

xoggoth
11th June 2017, 20:08
If there was no plan why did people vote? What does it tell us about the 52%-ers?

That they prefer to check the facts and think things out for themselves rather than rely on what biased politicians spout?

SueEllen
11th June 2017, 20:08
If there was no plan why did people vote?
To give a slap to an entitled Oxbridge educated Etonian perhaps?




What does it tell us about the 52%-ers?

They knew the government was full of shite so gambled to see what they would come up with.

SueEllen
11th June 2017, 20:09
That they prefer to check the facts and think things out for themselves rather than rely on what biased politicians spout?

I checked facts and found out things myself.

In fact during the campaign I got increasingly cross with both side due to the shite they were coming out with.

xoggoth
11th June 2017, 20:09
What we should do is nuke Brussels. What's the point of having nukes and not using them?

original PM
11th June 2017, 20:12
See you later, bye!

http://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/cameron1.jpg

Given that brexit was polling 30-40% consistently for a year, HE SHOULD OF HAD A RUDIMENTARY PLAN.

He should HAVE had a plan.

No such verb as 'to of'.

With North Korea about to nuke the US and Syria being bombed to sh!t you should be happy, the worst happening between the EU and UK is some strongly worded emails.

SueEllen
11th June 2017, 20:12
What we should do is nuke Brussels. What's the point of having nukes and not using them?

The Belgians are harmless. They managed without an official government for over a year.

AtW
11th June 2017, 20:15
What we should do is nuke Brussels. What's the point of having nukes and not using them?

They only work with prior approval from USA.

tomtomagain
11th June 2017, 20:20
They only work with prior approval from USA.

And you think Trump would object?

AtW
11th June 2017, 20:23
And you think Trump would object?

He will on the grounds that it should be aimed at Berlin...

original PM
11th June 2017, 20:24
The Belgians are harmless. They managed without an official government for over a year.

Indeed you probably need to be more afraid of those who want power over you for the sake of having power over you.

WTFH
11th June 2017, 20:35
Indeed you probably need to be more afraid of those who want power over you for the sake of having power over you.

You mean the Tories?

Paddy
11th June 2017, 21:47
Stupid Brexiters voted leave so their government can make laws independent of Brussels. From now on the UK Laws with be governed by the whims of Belfast.

original PM
11th June 2017, 23:43
You mean the Tories?

No they are the governing power in the country you live in which is a democracy. You can vote against them if you can legally vote or you can live somewhere else.

AtW
12th June 2017, 00:55
No they are the governing power in the country you live in which is a democracy. You can vote against them if you can legally vote or you can live somewhere else.

:rollin:

NotAllThere
12th June 2017, 05:50
....
Given that brexit was polling 30-40% consistently for a year, HE SHOULD OF HAD A RUDIMENTARY PLAN.


He should HAVE had a plan.

No such verb as 'to of'.Not often I agree with you, but yes.
http://68.media.tumblr.com/7c283e3f73f82f9d5e03ec72aa9314f2/tumblr_inline_mvtvnmdZek1qbolbn.png

PurpleGorilla
12th June 2017, 05:58
Not often I agree with you, but yes.
http://68.media.tumblr.com/7c283e3f73f82f9d5e03ec72aa9314f2/tumblr_inline_mvtvnmdZek1qbolbn.png

WGAF, seriously!

motoukenin
12th June 2017, 08:38
When the negotiations begin there is only 3 things that the EU are mandated to talk about:

1) How much money UK will need to pay
2) EU citizens residency status in the UK
3) The Irish border

EU will not negotiate anything outside this including trade, in other words all the things that benefit mostly the EU. Looks like a complete stitch up to me only option is to leave with no deal.

Paddy
12th June 2017, 08:45
When the negotiations begin there is only 3 things that the EU are mandated to talk about:

1) How much money UK will need to pay
2) EU citizens residency status in the UK
3) The Irish border

EU will not negotiate anything outside this including trade, in other words all the things that benefit mostly the EU. Looks like a complete stitch up to me only option is to leave with no deal.

The other option is to retract Art.50.

BlasterBates
12th June 2017, 08:51
It is a brilliant move though by the EU, i.e. when David Davis goes in with guns blazing asking for parallel talks instead of disagreeing, simply disappearing for a year to comply with his request.

:D

NotAllThere
12th June 2017, 08:58
WGAF, seriously!Me and Original PM, for one. But I thought you'd be interested in downplaying your apparent ignorance.

PurpleGorilla
12th June 2017, 09:00
Me and Original PM, for one. But I thought you'd be interested in downplaying your apparent ignorance.

For a gorilla I think my language is fooking amazing!

BrilloPad
12th June 2017, 09:00
The other option is to retract Art.50.

Is that possible? :confused:

BrilloPad
12th June 2017, 09:01
Me and Original PM, for one. But I thought you'd be interested in downplaying your apparent ignorance.

You are ignorant enough to be a mod.

Paddy
12th June 2017, 09:06
Is that possible? :confused:


Triggering Article 50 does not mean it cannot be later revoked, according to a leading EU lawyer who helped write it, who also warned of “15 years of economic pain” immediately after the UK leaves the European Union.

Triggering Article 50 can be reversed, according to the lawyer who wrote it | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/article-50-trigger-brexit-eu-revoke-economic-plan-legal-trade-agreement-a7231446.html)

milanbenes
12th June 2017, 09:10
taking a step back,

it's clear to see, that contrary to the rhetoric of the last 11 months, we're all indeed Remainers at heart

Brexiters, all is forgotten, welcome to the Remain camp

You know it makes sense

We'll just forget about the last 11 months how's that for a deal

Milan and all of the Remainers

VectraMan
12th June 2017, 09:13
Triggering Article 50 can be reversed, according to the lawyer who wrote it | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/article-50-trigger-brexit-eu-revoke-economic-plan-legal-trade-agreement-a7231446.html)

Even if not, if everyone agrees anything can be done, even if it requires some complicated treaty change or the like.

If you think about it, the EU big wigs don't want other smaller countries to get the idea of leaving. For a big economy like the UK to take the steps towards leaving, and then change its mind once the nightmare reality becomes clear, is for them a fantastic result.

milanbenes
12th June 2017, 09:14
Even if not, if everyone agrees anything can be done, even if it requires some complicated treaty change or the like.

If you think about it, the EU big wigs don't want other smaller countries to get the idea of leaving. For a big economy like the UK to take the steps towards leaving, and then change its mind once the nightmare reality becomes clear, is for them a fantastic result.

yep, big win for the EU

Milan.

OwlHoot
12th June 2017, 09:16
Stupid Brexiters voted leave so their government can make laws independent of Brussels. From now on the UK Laws with be governed by the whims of Belfast.

For the time being, but what you muppets always fail to grasp is that unlike the EU it's not permanent and out of our control - The present government, or any government, can soon be voted out if it doesn't shape up.

milanbenes
12th June 2017, 09:18
that's up to Rupert

Milan.

original PM
12th June 2017, 09:35
Me and Original PM, for one. But I thought you'd be interested in downplaying your apparent ignorance.

Indeed - one of the few grammar things which winds me up -mainly because it is so wrong.

The word of is substituted for have because of people being unable to spell the contracted version

E..g they hear could've but write it could of.

northernladyuk
12th June 2017, 09:49
Indeed - one of the few grammar things which winds me up -mainly because it is so wrong.

The word of is substituted for have because of people being unable to spell the contracted version

E..g they hear could've but write it could of.

It is a spelling mistake, not a grammar mistake. Please try to use the semantically correct word. And sort out your punctuation!

sasguru
12th June 2017, 10:01
... is the least damaging one.
Because all forms of Brexit lead to a shrinking of the economy.
That logically follows from the fact that any deal will put some constraints on trade with our biggest trading partner, which is currently open and free.

The idea that trade with other countries/blocs will make up for this loss is, frankly, complete and utter bullshit wishful thinking, firstly because most countries won't think of the UK as a major trading partner on its own and secondly because we don't make enough stuff to trade with.


HTH, BIKIW.

northernladyuk
12th June 2017, 11:26
... is the least damaging one.
Because all forms of Brexit lead to a shrinking of the economy.
That logically follows from the fact that any deal will put some constraints on trade with our biggest trading partner, which is currently open and free.

The idea that trade with other countries/blocs will make up for this loss is, frankly, complete and utter bullshit wishful thinking, firstly because most countries won't think of the UK as a major trading partner on its own and secondly because we don't make enough stuff to trade with.


HTH, BIKIW.

It's worse than wishful thinking. The hard right Brexiteers know exactly what it will do to the economy, but will tell any lie they have to, so they can fulfill their Little England dream.