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Vote Leave chief who created £350m NHS lie on bus admits leaving EU could be an error

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    Vote Leave chief who created £350m NHS lie on bus admits leaving EU could be an error

    Brexit: Vote Leave chief who created £350m NHS lie on bus admits leaving EU could be 'an error' | The Independent

    £350m NHS lie on bus admits leaving EU could be 'an error'
    Dominic Cummings also described the referendum as a 'dumb idea' - shaping up to be a 'guaranteed debacle'

    Dominic Cummings came up with the infamous bus promising an extra £350m a week for the NHS Getty
    One of the masterminds behind the Brexit vote has performed an astonishing U-turn by admitting that leaving the EU may be “an error”.

    Dominic Cummings, the Vote Leave campaign director, described the referendum as a “dumb idea” before other ideas had been tried to win back powers from Brussels. He has also warned that Brexit is shaping up to be a “guaranteed debacle”, without big changes in Whitehall to deliver a successful negotiation.

    Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrat leader, seized on the comments, saying: “Dominic Cummings has let the cat out of the bag. This is the man who slapped the £350m NHS lie on the side of the bus who is now saying leaving the EU could be a mistake.

    “These Brexiteers have sold us a pup and lied to the public. This is why I believe the public should be given a say on the final Brexit deal.”

    Mr Cummings is little known to the public, but is widely seen as hugely influential behind the scenes in pulling off last year’s shock referendum Leave vote. A former special adviser to Michael Gove, he coined the phrase “vote leave, take control”, which excited wavering voters into believing Britain could reclaim sovereignty.

    Government stance on Brexit 'nonsense' and Labour 'cowards', Anna Soubry says
    And, notoriously, he came with the campaign for an extra £350m to be spent on the NHS every week from diverted EU spending – which also proved crucial, MPs said. Leading Brexiteers including Boris Johnson were photographed alongside the bus – but the pledge was immediately dumped when Theresa May took over in Downing Street.

    Mr Cummings’ volte-face came in a late-night Twitter exchange, in which he was asked whether anything could happen to “wish Leave had not won the referendum?”

    In reply, he wrote: “Lots! I said before REF was dumb idea, other things shdve been tried 1st. In some possible branches of the future leaving will be an error.”

    Last month, Mr Cummings tweeted that MPs who backed Leave must force change on Downing Street and the Department for Exiting the European Union, led by David Davis. “If Leave MPs don't assert themselves to force MANAGEMENT changes on No10/DEXU, Brexit talks = guaranteed debacle as I’ve said for a year,” he wrote.

    The comments come amid fresh cabinet infighting over the terms of Brexit, as ministers exploit Ms May’s weakness to argue for different approaches.

    The Chancellor Philip Hammond mocked Mr Johnson’s claim that Britain could “have its cake and eat it” in the talks – but was, in turn, slapped down by Mr Davis for arguing for a lengthy transitional period.

    The Brexit Secretary’s former chief of staff than criticised the Prime Minister for tying his hands by insisting all influence held by the European Court of Justice must come to an end.

    Mr Farron added: “The government, led by the nose by Boris and Gove are a shambles. These Brexiteers have forced us to play a massive stakes game of Russian roulette with millions of jobs at risk.”

    #2
    Yawn.

    Does anyone GAF about the red bus?

    Honestly.

    Move on people, next stop EEA...
    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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      #3
      "One of the masterminds behind the Brexit vote has performed an astonishing U-turn by admitting that leaving the EU may be “an error”.
      "Dominic Cummings, the Vote Leave campaign director, described the referendum as a “dumb idea”

      Should we be calling him a 'mastermind' then?


      We really must be the laughing stock of the world
      This country gets all it deserves.
      Complete plonkers playing games at the top and enough useful idiots to exploit, as this forum shows.
      Hard Brexit now!
      #prayfornodeal

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        #4
        Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post

        Move on people, next stop EEA...
        Where we pay but don't have a say..
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #5
          It was Kenneth Clarke who said in 10 years you won't find anyone admitting to voting leave. With the car manufacturers now warning of mass layoffs next year it's pretty clear it will be a massive f*** up.

          I'm alright Jack

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            #6
            Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
            Yawn.

            Does anyone GAF about the red bus?

            Honestly.

            Move on people, next stop EEA...
            WHS. Honestly, the Remainers here are obsessed to the point of madness.

            Why not just chill out and see how things transpire?
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              #7
              Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
              WHS. Honestly, the Remainers here are obsessed to the point of madness.

              Why not just chill out and see how things transpire?
              Indeed everyday is a popcorn day.

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                #8
                it wasn't a lie

                I am always confused by those that say the bus slogan was a lie. It was certainly misleading but was it a lie?

                "We send the EU £350 million a week, let's fund our NHS instead. Vote Leave. Let's take back control."

                So prior to the rebate we do send them £350 million a week, this isn't a lie exactly? It just doesn't give them the net contribution amount. "Let's fund our NHS instead". It doesn't say that the amount available to fund the NHS if we left the EU would be £350m although it implies it. It also doesn't mention that funding the NHS instead would be at the expense of EU money spent in the poorer areas of the UK. This is also misleading.

                I've always been uneasy about the claim that the bus slogan was a lie. Certainly misleading but i wouldn't call it a lie.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  Where we pay but don't have a say..
                  Stop remoaning then and push for hard brexit.
                  http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MeMeMe1966 View Post
                    I am always confused by those that say the bus slogan was a lie. It was certainly misleading but was it a lie?
                    No, it wasn't a lie, it was misleading, therefore fraudulent.

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