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Eirikur
6th July 2017, 10:47
A document signed by Charles II has surfaced which grants the people of Bruges the eternal right to fish in British waters
https://twitter.com/GeertBourgeois/status/882875026478944256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fnos.nl%2Fartikel%2F2181738-belgies-troef-voor-de-brexit-eeuwenoud-koninklijk-privilege.html

It was tested in UK courts in the 1960's but no final verdict was made as it has to go to the house of lords which it didn't at the time

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 10:50
A document signed by Charles II has surfaced which grants the people of Bruges the eternal right to fish in British waters
https://twitter.com/GeertBourgeois/status/882875026478944256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fnos.nl%2Fartikel%2F2181738-belgies-troef-voor-de-brexit-eeuwenoud-koninklijk-privilege.html

It was tested in UK courts in the 1960's but no final verdict was made as it has to go to the house of lords which it didn't at the time

Lot's of interesting stuff will surface around fishing rights.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/18/denmark-to-contest-uk-efforts-to-take-back-control-of-fisheries

scooterscot
6th July 2017, 10:55
Lot's of interesting stuff will surface around fishing rights.

Such as British fishermen no longer finding it profitable to sell their produce to EU customers. :rolleyes:

BrilloPad
6th July 2017, 10:56
So once again the lawyers benefit. Lets just deploy the RN. All of it. Admiral Robert and his dingy should be able to see off johnny foreigner easily.....

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 10:56
Such as British fishermen no longer finding it profitable to sell their produce to EU customers. :rolleyes:

Or even get it to EU markets fresh. Still, will be good for the fish freezing and canning industry. Grimsby?

SueEllen
6th July 2017, 10:56
A document signed by Charles II has surfaced which grants the people of Bruges the eternal right to fish in British waters
https://twitter.com/GeertBourgeois/status/882875026478944256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fnos.nl%2Fartikel%2F2181738-belgies-troef-voor-de-brexit-eeuwenoud-koninklijk-privilege.html

It was tested in UK courts in the 1960's but no final verdict was made as it has to go to the house of lords which it didn't at the time

Amusing.

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 10:58
So once again the lawyers benefit. Lets just deploy the RN. All of it. Admiral Robert and his dingy should be able to see off johnny foreigner easily.....

Exactly.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/03/admiral-calls-plan-to-police-post-brexit-fishing-waters-amazingly-complacent

woohoo
6th July 2017, 10:59
Lot's of interesting stuff will surface around fishing rights.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/18/denmark-to-contest-uk-efforts-to-take-back-control-of-fisheries

I don't get it though, they didnt seem to have rights in our waters before we joined the EU, so not sure how they think they have rights now - talking about Denmark.

The_Equalizer
6th July 2017, 11:00
I don't get it though, they didnt seem to have rights in our waters before we joined the EU, so not sure how they think they have rights now - talking about Denmark.

Stop mudding Eirikur's argument.

SueEllen
6th July 2017, 11:03
I don't get it though, they didnt seem to have rights in our waters before we joined the EU, so not sure how they think they have rights now - talking about Denmark.

That's cos they weren't bothered then. Now they all are and are digging out old documents.

Cod Wars II

AtW
6th July 2017, 11:06
So once again the lawyers benefit. Lets just deploy the RN. All of it. Admiral Robert and his dingy should be able to see off johnny foreigner easily.....

That aircraft carrier without airplanes will show 'em who is the boss!

VectraMan
6th July 2017, 11:10
So once again the lawyers benefit. Lets just deploy the RN. All of it. Admiral Robert and his dingy should be able to see off johnny foreigner easily.....

Kippers dismiss the idea of the EU keeping the peace, but at the first sign of any disagreement you're already talking about using military force.

Given that fishing is only about 0.5% of GDP, it might be easier and cheaper to simply let the Danes and Belgians have our waters.

BrilloPad
6th July 2017, 11:14
Kippers dismiss the idea of the EU keeping the peace, but at the first sign of any disagreement you're already talking about using military force.

Given that fishing is only about 0.5% of GDP, it might be easier and cheaper to simply let the Danes and Belgians have our waters.

Then how else do we try out our latest weapons?

AtW
6th July 2017, 11:17
Then how else do we try out our latest weapons?

Food riots? Good for helicopter gunships I hear

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 11:31
Food riots? Good for helicopter gunships I hear

They're needed for the Dover Jungle camp.

vetran
6th July 2017, 11:37
Kippers dismiss the idea of the EU keeping the peace, but at the first sign of any disagreement you're already talking about using military force.



I suppose with military experts like the Italians & the French they much prefer to surrender.

vetran
6th July 2017, 11:40
That's cos they weren't bothered then. Now they all are and are digging out old documents.

Cod Wars II

And I thought the UK was already on the ropes and would beg the EU let us sell the our Jam.

But our friends are now scrabbling around to find something to win.

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 12:04
I suppose with military experts like the Italians & the French they much prefer to surrender.

Cling on tight onto the old clichés. They will serve you well in the establishment of Empire 2.0.

SueEllen
6th July 2017, 12:05
And I thought the UK was already on the ropes and would beg the EU let us sell the our Jam.

But our friends are now scrabbling around to find something to win.

Oh but they will win.

We lost the Cod War remember.

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 12:07
And I thought the UK was already on the ropes and would beg the EU let us sell the our Jam.

But our friends are now scrabbling around to find something to win.

Other way round. The UK holds all the cards due to the balance of trade between UK and EU27.

vetran
6th July 2017, 12:13
Cling on tight onto the old clichés. They will serve you well in the establishment of Empire 2.0.

https://www.screamingfrog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/french-military-victories.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/MeanJokes/comments/2ki24m/why_do_french_tanks_have_a_rearview_mirror/


Amazingly they surrendered a few times before WWII.

Italians the same


Neither living up to their Gallic or Roman roots.

OwlHoot
6th July 2017, 12:17
A document signed by Charles II has surfaced which grants the people of Bruges the eternal right to fish in British waters
https://twitter.com/GeertBourgeois/status/882875026478944256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fnos.nl%2Fartikel%2F2181738-belgies-troef-voor-de-brexit-eeuwenoud-koninklijk-privilege.html

It was tested in UK courts in the 1960's but no final verdict was made as it has to go to the house of lords which it didn't at the time

Since William of Orange (Charles II's successor after the short reign of James II) was Dutch, maybe we could root through a few more old papers and find the UK has sovereignty over Holland :tongue

northernladyuk
6th July 2017, 12:20
https://www.screamingfrog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/french-military-victories.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/MeanJokes/comments/2ki24m/why_do_french_tanks_have_a_rearview_mirror/


Amazingly they surrendered a few times before WWII.

Italians the same


Neither living up to their Gallic or Roman roots.

There you go! That should keep you going through the hard times.

Eirikur
6th July 2017, 12:42
Since William of Orange (Charles II's successor after the short reign of James II) was Dutch, maybe we could root through a few more old papers and find the UK has sovereignty over Holland :tongue

It would probably be the other way around. The Dutch king is still in line for the English throne (albeit at number 850)

VectraMan
6th July 2017, 16:18
It would probably be the other way around. The Dutch king is still in line for the English throne (albeit at number 850)

There must be the odd German relative of Victoria and Albert that are closer than that.

SueEllen
6th July 2017, 16:56
There must be the odd German relative of Victoria and Albert that are closer than that.

There is a nice Wikipedia article on it linky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_successions_of_the_English_crown)