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AtW
17th July 2017, 20:43
David Davis leaves Brussels after less than one hour of Brexit talks

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/17/david-davis-leaves-brussels-after-less-than-one-hour-of-brexit-talks

:laugh

original PM
17th July 2017, 20:46
Yup if you don't like the deal walk away is a good tactic.

AtW
17th July 2017, 20:48
Yup if you don't like the deal walk away is a good tactic.

:laugh

BrilloPad
17th July 2017, 20:50
Disagreement on penalties for squirrel sh4ggers.

darmstadt
17th July 2017, 20:51
Actually these stories are a little bit misleading as the talks over the next couple of days are being handled by civil servants (unelected representatives of the British electorate BTW) and Davis is back on Thursday to make sure that they didn't sign away the rest of the Treasury...Although it was a bit strange seeing one side with a lot of bumpf and him with diddly squat, maybe he's got a brain the size of a planet

jamesbrown
17th July 2017, 21:17
Although it was a bit strange seeing one side with a lot of bumpf and him with diddly squat, maybe he's got a brain the size of a planet

Davis et al. are approaching the media ops like utter n00bs. They were clearly taken into a staging room for the photo op and Davis should've had the presence of mind to question why Barnier and his team might have brought their papers into a staging room. Davis then heads back to London within the hour and further foot shooting ensues. He's a seasoned politician, and he really should know better.

Mordac
17th July 2017, 21:49
David Davis leaves Brussels after less than one hour of Brexit talks

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/17/david-davis-leaves-brussels-after-less-than-one-hour-of-brexit-talks

:laugh

I can't believe it took him an hour to tell them to do one - even if it needed translating into 26 languages. I'd have used sign language...:moon: :winker:s

:smokin

BlasterBates
17th July 2017, 22:05
David Davis is as 'thick as mince' and as 'lazy as a toad', says Vote Leave chief | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-thick-as-mince-lazy-as-a-toad-dominic-cummings-a7845911.html)


The former head of the Vote Leave campaign has branded the Brexit Secretary as “thick as mince” and “as lazy as a toad”.

The wheels are coming off.

:D

stek
17th July 2017, 22:07
David Davis leaves Brussels after less than one hour of Brexit talks

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/17/david-davis-leaves-brussels-after-less-than-one-hour-of-brexit-talks

:laugh

Need to see the Doc about his knees after 59 minutes on them.......

tomtomagain
18th July 2017, 08:08
It's 2017. Who the hell brings a A4 ream of printed paper into a meeting anyway?

They should have had iPads and done the whole thing over Skype.

The EU should legislate against unnecessary printing and business travel. It's bad for the environment.

motoukenin
18th July 2017, 08:12
He had to rush out due to Bus problems
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8357526.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Stagecoach-bus.jpg

AtW
18th July 2017, 10:42
It's 2017. Who the hell brings a A4 ream of printed paper into a meeting anyway?

They should have had iPads and done the whole thing over Skype.

The EU should legislate against unnecessary printing and business travel. It's bad for the environment.

Security

tomtomagain
18th July 2017, 10:50
Security

That's true. The Brits hacked the German's Enigma back in the 40's. After the war, kept that a secret, and distributed captured Enigma's to other countries.

GCHQ invented public key encryption way back in the 70's.

Who's to say that UK Government is not busily reading Mr Barnier's emails?

After all the internet and computers were invented by spies and code-breakers for the purpose of spying.

milanbenes
18th July 2017, 11:12
Yup if you don't like the deal walk away is a good tactic.

walking away is the final/last negotiating tactic, not the first

Milan.

AtW
18th July 2017, 13:01
walking away is the final/last negotiating tactic, not the first

Milan.

In this case it's the first and the last ...

sasguru
18th July 2017, 13:05
Davis et al. are approaching the media ops like utter n00bs. They were clearly taken into a staging room for the photo op and Davis should've had the presence of mind to question why Barnier and his team might have brought their papers into a staging room. Davis then heads back to London within the hour and further foot shooting ensues. He's a seasoned politician, and he really should know better.

Why do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.
What's scary is this talk of him becoming Tory leader.:eek: You'd think nothing could be worse than May, but you'd be wrong

AtW
18th July 2017, 13:12
Why do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.
What's scary is this talk of him becoming Tory leader.:eek: You'd think nothing could be worse than May, but you'd be wrong

This Tory deal is getting worse all the time...

BlasterBates
18th July 2017, 14:15
Why do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.
What's scary is this talk of him becoming Tory leader.:eek: You'd think nothing could be worse than May, but you'd be wrong

I totally agree and he is actually one of the better candidates

:eek

This is precisely why Corbyn looks like a great statesman.

jamesbrown
18th July 2017, 14:41
Why do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.

Bar a shocking conference speech in 2005, he would've been Tory leader. Either way, he's an experienced politician. Mediocrity, fine, whatever, but he's been around the block. If your three counterparts are walking into a staging room with a few trees worth of "briefing documents", you should know something's amiss. If you leave the negotiating room after an hour, you should know what to expect in the Grauniad and the Windy. Perhaps he knows all this, but simply doesn't give a crap. He should.

darmstadt
18th July 2017, 14:59
Hopefully people aren't getting confused here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davis_(British_politician)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davies_(Welsh_politician)

BlasterBates
18th July 2017, 15:08
It is self-evident that the talks will get bogged down without any movement and there they will stay until the government collapses. The only thing that will shift the UK government into gear will be the inevitably of an economic catastrophe.

:D

sasguru
18th July 2017, 15:10
Bar a shocking conference speech in 2005, he would've been Tory leader. Either way, he's an experienced politician. Mediocrity, fine, whatever, but he's been around the block. If your three counterparts are walking into a staging room with a few trees worth of "briefing documents", you should know something's amiss. If you leave the negotiating room after an hour, you should know what to expect in the Grauniad and the Windy. Perhaps he knows all this, but simply doesn't give a crap. He should.

He's had a sloppy approach right from the start.
Barnier is no genius but compared to Davies he looks like Einstein.
But let's look at the bright side, his incompetence is more likely to lead to the hard Brexit we both want. :D

sasguru
18th July 2017, 15:11
It is self-evident that the talks will get bogged down without any movement and there they will stay until the government collapses. The only thing that will shift the UK government into gear will be the inevitably of an economic catastrophe.

:D

Hard Brexit=economic catastrophe.
Anything else=some pain.

The Treasury produced an interesting and overlooked study in 2016 showing how much the preservation of EU wide supply chains matters to the UK economy. Remember reading it then but it seems to have been removed from their website.

BlasterBates
18th July 2017, 15:49
Article 50 author calls for Brexit to be halted with a warning of ‘disastrous consequences’ | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/article-50-author-lord-kerr-of-kinlochard-brexit-latest-news-warning-disastrous-consequences-a7846951.html)


The peer, who was Britain’s permanent representative at the EU for five years from 1990, said when he wrote Article 50 – the clause in the EU’s Lisbon Treaty that outlines the steps a country must take to leave the bloc voluntarily – he believed it would only ever be triggered by a dictatorial regime.

:D

sasguru
18th July 2017, 16:03
I've prepared for the worst and am ready for it. Bring on hard Brexit - in chaos lies opportunity.

AtW
18th July 2017, 16:11
I've prepared for the worst and am ready for it. Bring on hard Brexit - in chaos lies opportunity.

Who is your canned goods supplier?

OwlHoot
18th July 2017, 16:37
I've prepared for the worst and am ready for it. Bring on hard Brexit - in chaos lies opportunity.

You seem to assume you're the only one among the ten billion people on Earth with the almost superhuman prescience to spot that there may be opportunities in a hard Brexit.

In fact you'll probably be swept aside and trampled underfoot by the stampede of others (in the UK and outside) taking advantage of the many opportunities faster and better than you ever could! :laugh

AtW
18th July 2017, 16:56
there may be opportunities in a hard Brexit.

What are they? Please list in order of importance

darmstadt
18th July 2017, 17:22
What are they? Please list in order of importance

A cheap workforce :tongue

vetran
18th July 2017, 17:37
You seem to assume you're the only one among the ten billion people on Earth with the almost superhuman prescience to spot that there may be opportunities in a hard Brexit.

In fact you'll probably be swept aside and trampled underfoot by the stampede of others (in the UK and outside) taking advantage of the many opportunities faster and better than you ever could! :laugh

its so long since AssSnob has had anything hard he is desperate!