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OwlHoot
20th July 2017, 10:17
Not referring to robots rampaging around killing people, but ideas for apps that will make the next generation of billionaires over the coming twenty or thirty years say.

I reckon one may be pest control, i.e. a robot that can recognise and snatch mozzies and tsetse flies out of the air, or spot and zap bed bugs wandering towards a bed at night, or an underwater ones to catch lice at salmon farms.

and if anyone mentions blasted Br**** too soon then rest assured, I will run your next thread off the rails in retaliation. :devil

WTFH
20th July 2017, 10:32
Robots running the country/apps to run the country.
They will only make logical decisions based on fact, and the decisions will not be based on them being paid for the next few years/decades.
Remove all the "personality" and sound bite aspects of currents pols and make them actually do work and deliver promises for the betterment of the country/world as a whole, and not just pandering to the few.

OwlHoot
20th July 2017, 10:38
Robots running the country/apps to run the country.
They will only make logical decisions based on fact, and the decisions will not be based on them being paid for the next few years/decades.
Remove all the "personality" and sound bite aspects of currents pols and make them actually do work and deliver promises for the betterment of the country/world as a whole, and not just pandering to the few.

Sounds political, although you didn't quite mention the Br*** word.

Just did a quick web search for "uk robot forum" and all I could see, besides academic institutions, was references to "Robot Wars" and "Fighting Robots". Doesn't bode well for the future. :eyes

Isn't there anyone, hobbyists perhaps, trying to design and build a robot that could trot up and down a row of strawberry plants, for example, picking off pests with a miniature hoover? (I do realize the object recognition aspect is far easier said than done.)

WTFH
20th July 2017, 10:50
Isn't there anyone, hobbyists perhaps, trying to design and build a robot that could trot up and down a row of strawberry plants, for example, picking off pests with a miniature hoover? (I do realize the object recognition aspect is far easier said than done.)

The issue with low growing plants is that the space required to get a robot in reduces the growing space, also plants in general are non-uniform. Better to have systems that perform logical and repeatable functions, e.g. Manufacturing.

vetran
20th July 2017, 11:03
Not referring to robots rampaging around killing people, but ideas for apps that will make the next generation of billionaires over the coming twenty or thirty years say.

I reckon one may be pest control, i.e. a robot that can recognise and snatch mozzies and tsetse flies out of the air, or spot and zap bed bugs wandering towards a bed at night, or an underwater ones to catch lice at salmon farms.

and if anyone mentions blasted Br**** too soon then rest assured, I will run your next thread off the rails in retaliation. :devil

KUATB (http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/optoelectronics/licehunting-underwater-drone-protects-salmon-with-lasers)

Been done

vetran
20th July 2017, 11:09
The issue with low growing plants is that the space required to get a robot in reduces the growing space, also plants in general are non-uniform. Better to have systems that perform logical and repeatable functions, e.g. Manufacturing.

They seem to have managed that here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT351pQHfI

AI & CV is getting better daily. Accuracy hasn't been an issue for decades. You can buy pick & place SMD machines for <$1000.

d000hg
20th July 2017, 11:10
The issue with low growing plants is that the space required to get a robot in reduces the growing space, also plants in general are non-uniform. Better to have systems that perform logical and repeatable functions, e.g. Manufacturing.

I think we can bet people are researching in this area - it would be rather a breakthrough in several areas of robotics and AI since as you imply, it's a deceptively complicated task.

original PM
20th July 2017, 11:17
Robots running the country/apps to run the country.
They will only make logical decisions based on fact, and the decisions will not be based on them being paid for the next few years/decades.
Remove all the "personality" and sound bite aspects of currents pols and make them actually do work and deliver promises for the betterment of the country/world as a whole, and not just pandering to the few.

Yeah the main problem is that all AI's come to the same conclusion - the only way to solve humanities problems is to get rid of humanity!

WTFH
20th July 2017, 11:24
KUATB (http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/optoelectronics/licehunting-underwater-drone-protects-salmon-with-lasers)

Been done

Treating the problem, not the cause.

Why do farmed salmon get lice (and it spreads so fast)?
1. Not a high enough flow of water through the cages
2. Too high a concentration of fish per cage
3. Additives in the food killing off the things that would normally get rid of the lice.
4. Additives in the food to increase growth at the detriment of health
Etc.

BrilloPad
20th July 2017, 11:30
Is replacing drivers, pilots and doctors a given? What about carers? Cleaners?

vetran
20th July 2017, 12:01
Treating the problem, not the cause.

Why do farmed salmon get lice (and it spreads so fast)?
1. Not a high enough flow of water through the cages
2. Too high a concentration of fish per cage
3. Additives in the food killing off the things that would normally get rid of the lice.
4. Additives in the food to increase growth at the detriment of health
Etc.

unfortunately the economics mean many of those are necessary to make a profit.

A non polluting solution is better than pesticides.

OwlHoot
20th July 2017, 12:56
A non polluting solution is better than pesticides.

Exactly, and far more selective.

Mark my words, effective "smart" solar-powered robotic pest control will create more than one billionaire before long. Even a robot scarecrow drone, with silhouette enough like a bird of prey to chase birds away from crops, would probably make a mint.

But the web searches I've tried show no indication whatever of how someone like myself, keen to get involved, can find anyone in the UK who might be interested in considering collaborating with this, nor even any forum that seems remotely relevant to it. What a sad state of affairs. I bet there are people in the US beavering away on it in their garages even now, like the guys who founded Google.

vetran
20th July 2017, 13:21
Is replacing drivers, pilots and doctors a given? What about carers? Cleaners?

first use will be where there is danger to the person.

Bomb Disposal - been doing it for years.
Torpedo/Missile steering - been doing it for years.(yes in WW2 & earlier there were human steered missiles).
Battlefield - already common place.
Fire - starting to happen robots & drones in use.
Rescue Air/Sea/Mountain - starting to happen.
Nuclear - already common.
Deep sea exploration - been doing it for years.

Problem is the robots are too expensive and difficult to maintain / program.

As they become more common and cheaper we will see more.

vetran
20th July 2017, 18:51
Robots could soon care for dementia patients | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4713872/Robots-soon-care-dementia-patients.html)


Robots could soon care for dementia patients but experts warn it's 'not a replacement for human contact'
Tech advancements mean gadgets and apps are already being introduced
But there may be some potential in robots, researchers said in a new report
However, they worry that they may be used a substitute for face-to-face care

Bee
20th July 2017, 19:21
I would by a small flying robot to catch mosquitos in my bedroom at night. I hate these little vampires buzzing my ears. :tantrum:

OwlHoot
1st August 2017, 16:09
I would by a small flying robot to catch mosquitos in my bedroom at night. I hate these little vampires buzzing my ears. :tantrum:

The time to worry is when they suddenly stop buzzing! :eek:

No2politics
1st August 2017, 17:21
Is replacing drivers, pilots and doctors a given? What about carers? Cleaners?

Drivers and pilots - yes. Doctors - probably not in the near future.

https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-artificial-intelligence-can-and-cant-do-right-now

"If a typical person can do a mental task with less than one second of thought, we can probably automate it using AI either now or in the near future."

That being said there are many application of machine learning that are assisting medical decisions right now. I remember reading it's been proven a machine can classify brain scan images into tumor/not tumor better than a human expert...

MrMarkyMark
1st August 2017, 17:38
The time to worry is when they suddenly stop buzzing! :eek:

I stayed at a place in Mexico, deepest Caribbean coast close to Belize.

The ones there were quite happy to bite in the day.

A visit to the toilet at midday could have 10 attached to you by the time you had finished and washed your hands :eek:

BrilloPad
1st August 2017, 17:48
BBC news channel had a piece this mnorning on machines taking over.

Now they have done an about face.

The 'creepy Facebook AI' story that captivated the media - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40790258)

No2politics
1st August 2017, 18:04
Horizon was good last night. Talking about deep learning - the tech behind driverless cars, chat bots etc

darmstadt
1st August 2017, 18:19
I stayed at a place in Mexico, deepest Caribbean coast close to Belize.

The ones there were quite happy to bite in the day.

A visit to the toilet at midday could have 10 attached to you by the time you had finished and washed your hands :eek:

Well that made something swell at least...