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milanbenes
5th September 2017, 19:43
Evening All,

If Brexit hadn't happened, what would we be talking about all day ?

And, what would the government be doing ?

Milan.

northernladyuk
5th September 2017, 19:48
Evening All,

If Brexit hadn't happened, what would we be talking about all day ?

And, what would the government be doing ?

Milan.

A second referendum.

Having its cake and eating it.

tarbera
5th September 2017, 19:53
How good value European holidays were over the summer - almost 1.6 eur to the £

vetran
5th September 2017, 20:46
Tiatties

Cirrus
5th September 2017, 23:43
If Brexit hadn't happenedIt hasn't happened. There was a referendum and subsequently a snap general election but so far nothing has been resolved.

NotAllThere
6th September 2017, 06:00
The referendum for Brexit was inevitable. Cameron called it to defuse UKIP. If he hadn't then he might have had to share power with UKIP in order to form a government.

SueEllen
6th September 2017, 06:06
The referendum for Brexit was inevitable. Cameron called it to defuse UKIP. If he hadn't then he might have had to share power with UKIP in order to form a government.

UKIP would have been preferable to the DUP.

northernladyuk
6th September 2017, 07:02
UKIP would have been preferable to the DUP.

DUP may be deranged but they are at least pragmatic.

NotAllThere
6th September 2017, 07:32
DUP may be deranged as well but they are at least pragmatic.FTFY.

motoukenin
6th September 2017, 07:37
Evening All,

If Brexit hadn't happened, what would we be talking about all day ?

And, what would the government be doing ?

Milan.

Its what we wouldn't be talking about that is more important , staycations , easily being able to work in Europe, large employers like banks and chemical companies threatening to leave without access to Europe , Investment in the UK dropping like a stone as companies realise access to the EU market is not as freely available, future technologies being dismantled and moved back to Europe ...etc. etc.

There again a discussion on fantasies like sovereignty , making our own laws and controlling immigration , Irish border , trade etc. are also interesting considering they amount to diddly squat and nobody has any solutions one year down the line.

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 08:10
UKIP would have been preferable to the DUP.

And why is that?

NotAllThere
6th September 2017, 08:53
And why is that?

Inevitable split would happen within 6 days, rather than 6 months?

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 08:56
Inevitable split would happen within 6 days, rather than 6 months?

They'll be no split with the DUP. The alternative for both parties will ensure that.

SueEllen
6th September 2017, 09:00
Inevitable split would happen within 6 days, rather than 6 months?

Yep.

How many leaders have UKIP gone through?

I also bet that some of their MPs like councillors would be suspended or worse.

original PM
6th September 2017, 09:46
Its what we wouldn't be talking about that is more important , staycations , easily being able to work in Europe, large employers like banks and chemical companies threatening to leave without access to Europe , Investment in the UK dropping like a stone as companies realise access to the EU market is not as freely available, future technologies being dismantled and moved back to Europe ...etc. etc.

There again a discussion on fantasies like sovereignty , making our own laws and controlling immigration , Irish border , trade etc. are also interesting considering they amount to diddly squat and nobody has any solutions one year down the line.

I wonder what percent of the UK population ever work anywhere but the UK.

Maybe if you think about that and pull your head out of the ridiculous bubble you have created where by you assume because it is something you want to do everyone else should therefore make sure you can.

Because you are mummy's special soldier.

scooterscot
6th September 2017, 10:23
The referendum for Brexit was inevitable. Cameron called it to defuse UKIP. If he hadn't then he might have had to share power with UKIP in order to form a government.

When does the Tories sharing power with UKIP look good? When the Tories are sharing power with DUP! And they paid them for it.

Couldn't make it up.

Lance
6th September 2017, 10:24
The referendum for Brexit was inevitable. Cameron called it to defuse UKIP. If he hadn't then he might have had to share power with UKIP in order to form a government.

Not without any MPs.
The referendum was meant to be bargained away in a coalition deal with Nick Clegg.
Cameron did what nobody expected and won a majority. Like John major before him he'll not be forgiven for being successful.
He could have been brave and swerved the referendum but hubris got the better of him and he assumed he'd win that one easily.

Bee
6th September 2017, 10:40
Evening All,

If Brexit hadn't happened, what would we be talking about all day ?

And, what would the government be doing ?

Milan.

Moaning the Government to have a referendum?

motoukenin
6th September 2017, 12:58
I wonder what percent of the UK population ever work anywhere but the UK.

Maybe if you think about that and pull your head out of the ridiculous bubble you have created where by you assume because it is something you want to do everyone else should therefore make sure you can.

Because you are mummy's special soldier.

Normally I don't respond to people who use childish name calling as an argument but as you have also completely missed the point here let me explain further.

A lot of the people on the contracting UK site are IT contractors and many do come to the EU, especially when they cant find a contract in the UK. Granted people with very specialised skills will still be in demand here as they will be anywhere , but operational , project management , network , infrastructure teams etc. etc. which do contain many from the UK will now find it harder or almost impossible to get contracts over here without a EU passport.

So the question is related to the number of people that visit this site that want at least the chance of working abroad and I would say that is a pretty high proportion.

sasguru
6th September 2017, 13:00
I wonder what percent of the UK population ever work anywhere but the UK.

Maybe if you think about that and pull your head out of the ridiculous bubble you have created where by you assume because it is something you want to do everyone else should therefore make sure you can.

Because you are mummy's special soldier.

Feck me.

Just because you're a useless public sector/utilities permie worker who adds fook-all value to anything, you assume everyone is like you?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Is there no limit to the immense stupidity of Brexiters?

SueEllen
6th September 2017, 13:15
Feck me.

Just because you're a useless public sector/utilities permie worker who adds fook-all value to anything, you assume everyone is like you?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Is there no limit to the immense stupidity of Brexiters?

Don't be mean.

If you want them to understand why they are stupid go for their emotions not their intellect.

sasguru
6th September 2017, 13:28
Don't be mean.

If you want them to understand why they are stupid go for their emotions not their intellect.

It's too late. A hard Brexit will help them understand why they are stupid. Let's hope it happens.

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 13:33
It's too late. A hard Brexit will help them understand why they are stupid. Let's hope it happens.

Now where have I heard that before. :grin

eek
6th September 2017, 13:33
Feck me.

Just because you're a useless public sector/utilities permie worker who adds fook-all value to anything, you assume everyone is like you?
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Is there no limit to the immense stupidity of Brexiters?

I think the point is that the number of people in the UK who regularly deal with people from overseas is probably 1-3% of the population....

The things I find people believe are:-

1) Everyone is the same as they themselves are
2) What happened last week / month / year will continue for ever.

And its important to understand that neither of the above are true...

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 13:35
I think the point is that the number of people in the UK who regularly deal with people from overseas is probably 1-3% of the population...

Unless you live in London, in which case it's more likely to be the reverse. :grin

BlasterBates
6th September 2017, 13:36
I think the point is that the number of people in the UK who regularly deal with people from overseas is probably 1-3% of the population....

The things I find people believe are:-

1) Everyone is the same as they themselves are
2) What happened last week / month / year will continue for ever.

And its important to understand that neither of the above are true...

But most of the food on their plate comes from overseas, as does virtually everything they own. I dare say that actually millions of people in the UK are talking to people overseas in call centres on a daily basis.

:D

woohoo
6th September 2017, 13:39
But most of the food on their plate comes from overseas, as does virtually everything they own.

:D

I like you BB, you don't let humor or wit get in the way of a good ole post. You just mash at those keys and click on the send button no matter what comes out.

It takes a special kind of person to not give that much of a damn, BB I salute you sir.

sasguru
6th September 2017, 13:39
Unless you live in London, in which case it's more likely to be the reverse. :grin

Take London out of the equation and the UK's economy is like Spain's.
That's another thing people don't understand.

London generates 30% of taxes (http://www.centreforcities.org/press/london-generating-30-uk-economy-taxes-serious-implications-post-brexit-britain/)

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 13:45
Take London out of the equation and the UK's economy is like Spain's.
That's another thing people don't understand.

London generates 30% of taxes (http://www.centreforcities.org/press/london-generating-30-uk-economy-taxes-serious-implications-post-brexit-britain/)

Interestingly, I've just found this:

Berlin is the only capital city in Europe that is a drag on its country’s economy - Quartz (who claim to be "Quartz is a digitally native news outlet, born in 2012, for business people in the new global economy. We publish bracingly creative and intelligent journalism with a broad worldview, built primarily for the devices closest at hand: tablets and mobile phones.") (https://qz.com/753244/berlin-is-the-only-capital-city-in-europe-that-is-a-drag-on-its-countrys-economy/)

Anyway, from the above:

"The Cologne Institute for Economic Research set out to see how GDP would be affected if a country had to cope without its capital city (link in German). Without London, Britain would be 11% poorer on a per capita basis. France would lose 15% of per capita income if it didn’t have Paris, where its biggest companies, like Total, Renault, and Peugeot have their headquarters. Greece would take a 20% hit without Athens."

So 'we' are not alone and, in some ways, better than our European neighbours.

Bee
6th September 2017, 13:48
Take London out of the equation and the UK's economy is like Spain's.
That's another thing people don't understand.

London generates 30% of taxes (http://www.centreforcities.org/press/london-generating-30-uk-economy-taxes-serious-implications-post-brexit-britain/)

The irony of this is that the population from London voted to remain.

BlasterBates
6th September 2017, 13:49
I like you BB, you don't let humor or wit get in the way of a good ole post. You just mash at those keys and click on the send button no matter what comes out.

It takes a special kind of person to not give that much of a damn, BB I salute you sir.

thx for that.

I see Brits are resorting to pull their own teeth out because of a lack of Dentists.

Patients having to ‘pull out their own teeth’ because NHS dentists refuse to treat them | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nhs-dentists-refuse-patients-pull-own-teeth-british-dental-association-england-bbc-a7932021.html)

You'll be seeing more of that.

:D

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 13:51
thx for that.

I see Brits are resorting to pull their own teeth out because of a lack of Dentists.

Patients having to ‘pull out their own teeth’ because NHS dentists refuse to treat them | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nhs-dentists-refuse-patients-pull-own-teeth-british-dental-association-england-bbc-a7932021.html)

You'll be seeing more of that.

:D

Begs the question what you consider yourself? Brits is a select term used by only a few. :grin

eek
6th September 2017, 13:54
thx for that.

I see Brits are resorting to pull their own teeth out because of a lack of Dentists.

Patients having to ‘pull out their own teeth’ because NHS dentists refuse to treat them | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nhs-dentists-refuse-patients-pull-own-teeth-british-dental-association-england-bbc-a7932021.html)

You'll be seeing more of that.

:D

That's been the case for 20 years. Few areas have NHS dentists that accept new patients. In Wales I seem to remember there was 1 town where the nearest NHS dentist was 47 miles or 3 hours by bus away...

SueEllen
6th September 2017, 14:18
That's been the case for 20 years. Few areas have NHS dentists that accept new patients. In Wales I seem to remember there was 1 town where the nearest NHS dentist was 47 miles or 3 hours by bus away...

London has lots. However they tend to be in the poorer areas due to rent and other costs.

BlasterBates
6th September 2017, 14:47
The UK needs to learn that there is no free lunch (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-06/schaeuble-tells-u-k-no-free-lunch-in-brexit-talks-with-europe)

Probably the NHS is the reason why many people in the UK think there is a free lunch-

The_Equalizer
6th September 2017, 14:50
The UK needs to learn that there is no free lunch (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-06/schaeuble-tells-u-k-no-free-lunch-in-brexit-talks-with-europe)

Probably the NHS is the reason why many people in the UK think there is a free lunch-

And there was me thinking it was paid for via taxation. :grin

NotAllThere
6th September 2017, 16:08
And there was me thinking it was paid for via taxation. :grin

Mainly from people who work.

sasguru
6th September 2017, 17:08
thx for that.

I see Brits are resorting to pull their own teeth out because of a lack of Dentists.

Patients having to ‘pull out their own teeth’ because NHS dentists refuse to treat them | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nhs-dentists-refuse-patients-pull-own-teeth-british-dental-association-england-bbc-a7932021.html)

You'll be seeing more of that.

:D

Funny that, since dentists got privatised there's been no problem finding one.
Of course if you want it on the NHS it's a different story. But who gives a crap about poor people any more.

northernladyuk
6th September 2017, 17:20
Funny that, since dentists got privatised there's been no problem finding one.
Of course if you want it on the NHS it's a different story. But who gives a crap about poor people any more.


Evening All,

If Brexit hadn't happened, what would we be talking about all day ?

And, what would the government be doing ?

Milan.

Actually... Brexit hasn't happened.