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mattfx
11th October 2017, 13:33
As the title really. Just bought a little CBR600F as a winter hack - was cheap as chips and rides like a beaut - got pretty lucky. Feels good to be back in the seat after a year of not riding.

Just in time for that Indian Summer :eyes

Big Blue Plymouth
11th October 2017, 13:38
As the title really. Just bought a little CBR600F as a winter hack - was cheap as chips and rides like a beaut - got pretty lucky. Feels good to be back in the seat after a year of not riding.

Just in time for that Indian Summer :eyes

Was just thinking about getting some winter tyres from my MT-03 :eyes

Pip in a Poke
11th October 2017, 13:39
honda gl 1500 goldwing full dresser here :wave:

vwdan
11th October 2017, 13:40
Yep, still got my Bandit 650 which was my first big bike and I picked up a VFR800 at the start of the year which I took over to France.

Always loved the CBR's but they're too small (physically) for me, personally.

northernladuk
11th October 2017, 13:44
cross dresser here :wave:

FTFY so it's closer to the truth.

ContractorOnAMotorbike
11th October 2017, 13:44
As the title really. Just bought a little CBR600F as a winter hack - was cheap as chips and rides like a beaut - got pretty lucky. Feels good to be back in the seat after a year of not riding.

Just in time for that Indian Summer :eyes

Welcome back to motorcycling :). The old CBR600F (Carb and FI variants) were bullet proof and so easy to ride; decent wind protection also which will be useful when the temperature drops.

milanbenes
11th October 2017, 13:47
As the title really. Just bought a little CBR600F as a winter hack


is that a paradox ?

isn't it the other way around, bike in the summer car in the winter

Milan.

Big Blue Plymouth
11th October 2017, 13:58
is that a paradox ?

isn't it the other way around, bike in the summer car in the winter

Milan.

Not if you're commuting. Traffic's worse in winter.

gables
11th October 2017, 14:06
1999 Yamaha R1 here - love it :smile

gables
11th October 2017, 14:07
Not if you're commuting. Traffic's worse in winter.

ah those were the days, I commuted by bike all year round, 400 miles a week, loved the fact my journey was fairly predictable unlike when in the car.

mattfx
11th October 2017, 15:36
is that a paradox ?

isn't it the other way around, bike in the summer car in the winter

Milan.

Funny, all the guys here said the same thing! However, my 17 mile journey was taking 45-50 minutes in the car - 20 on the bike + 5 mins to get my gear on.

I'm quite long in the leg but short in the body - so size wise the bike suits me pretty well! I've never been much of a fan of 4 cylinders (Vtwin and triple lover) but it's so buttery smooth I absolutely cannot fault it. 2003 and almost 60,000 miles and it rides better than my 2002 Sprint with 20,000 on the clock ever did!

Got some new gear arriving tomorrow which I am obviously very excited about!

bluetoaster
11th October 2017, 15:53
I run 2 bikes and again I use them for commuting by preference. Traffic and parking is massively easier on the bikes than in the car. Again I have a main bike and a winter hack and will ride all year unless the roads are frozen.

I'm intrigued by the comment about winter tyres. I run sport touring tyres and have never seen a motorcycle winter tyre.

ContractorOnAMotorbike
11th October 2017, 16:01
I run 2 bikes and again I use them for commuting by preference. Traffic and parking is massively easier on the bikes than in the car. Again I have a main bike and a winter hack and will ride all year unless the roads are frozen.

I'm intrigued by the comment about winter tyres. I run sport touring tyres and have never seen a motorcycle winter tyre.

Yes I run exactly the same sort of setup :) ... Main bike and winter hack. I swear by Michelin Pilot Road 4, excellent in the rain and cold.

Hobosapien
11th October 2017, 16:02
My CBR is so smooth I can't always tell it's cut out at a junction. Bloody thing has an intermittent idle problem. Need a louder exhaust so I can hear it over the ear plugs when it's supposedly ticking over. :grin

Been back to the garage twice but no they want more money to try something else. Erm, how about the money back for the things you've tried that haven't solved it? :rolleyes:

I should have just traded it in for a newer one at the start of the trouble and I'd not have missed the last of the summer weather. :tantrum:

Now I know why proper bikers tend to own more than one.

mattfx
11th October 2017, 16:07
My CBR is so smooth I can't always tell it's cut out at a junction. Bloody thing has an intermittent idle problem. Need a louder exhaust so I can hear it over the ear plugs when it's supposedly ticking over. :grin

Been back to the garage twice but no they want more money to try something else. Erm, how about the money back for the things you've tried that haven't solved it? :rolleyes:

I should have just traded it in for a newer one at the start of the trouble and I'd not have missed the last of the summer weather. :tantrum:

Now I know why proper bikers tend to own more than one.

And that's the thing; I'm missing the rumble of a twin under my nadgers.

Intermittent idle issue doesn't sound good; carbs or FI?

jamesbrown
11th October 2017, 16:09
Up until about 5yrs ago, I was commuting daily on my KTM 950. Now I WFH every day, and that's about the only thing I miss :frown

Big Blue Plymouth
11th October 2017, 16:30
Yes I run exactly the same sort of setup :) ... Main bike and winter hack. I swear by Michelin Pilot Road 4, excellent in the rain and cold.

This +1.

Nearly bought it once after the farmer had been muckspreading.

bluetoaster
11th October 2017, 16:31
I run Pirelli Angel GTs as tyres, which are superb in both the wet and the dry. Both my bikes are in line 4's with exhausts I can hear and if you are looking for a cheap exhaust for a hack and there's nothing on eBay, have a look at Delkevic. I do miss the rumble and the feel of a good v twin.

I don't like the idea of an intermittent idle issue either. does it suddenly cut out? or do the tail off?

Big Blue Plymouth
11th October 2017, 16:35
I run Pirelli Angel GTs as tyres, which are superb in both the wet and the dry. Both my bikes are in line 4's with exhausts I can hear and if you are looking for a cheap exhaust for a hack and there's nothing on eBay, have a look at Delkevic. I do miss the rumble and the feel of a good v twin.

Singles all the way for me. A few XTs and now the MT. Just love that low down torque. Only multicylinder bike I've ever owned was a 400/4.

DimPrawn
11th October 2017, 16:59
honda gl 1500 goldwing full dresser here :wave:

Was that you at Leigh Delamere services last weekend?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/28/43904283_7fd9774dd3.jpg

BackupBoy
11th October 2017, 17:13
Triumph triple household here. 2003 Sprint ST 955i and 2010 Speed Triple 1050.

Just put new Avon Spirit ST boots on the Sprint - best tyres I’ve ever ridden on.

jamesbrown
11th October 2017, 18:03
Any of you folks on Advrider?

Pip in a Poke
11th October 2017, 21:13
Was that you at Leigh Delamere services last weekend?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/28/43904283_7fd9774dd3.jpg

Oddly enough, I've spent a lot of time at Leigh Delamare over the years. When my first hubby was courting me, we'd often go up there on a Tuesday night as it was lamb shank night.

_V_
11th October 2017, 21:30
Oddly enough, I've spent a lot of time at Leigh Delamare over the years. When my first hubby was courting me, we'd often go up there on a Tuesday night as it was lamb shank night.

You can't beat a large greasy shank on a Tuesday.

Mordac
11th October 2017, 21:58
Oddly enough, I've spent a lot of time at Leigh Delamare over the years. When my first hubby was courting me, we'd often go up there on a Tuesday night as it was lamb shank night.

Now there's a euphemism you don't hear every day...

Yorkie62
12th October 2017, 06:00
DucatI multistrada 1200 's touring here. Best bike I ever bought. Bought new in2010 and been 100% reliable never missed a beat. Sounds great too with my Mivv exhaust system. Cant beat a v-twin. Michelin pilot road 4''s great tyres.

ChimpMaster
12th October 2017, 06:53
Now there's a cheap way of claiming 45p/mile expenses!

I used to love riding when I was in my 20s but had to sell the bike (RVF) to raise funds to buy our first home. And of course the wife wasn't keen on me risking my life each time I went out :eyes

Cut my commute into Shepherds Bush (BBC) from 50 minutes to 25 minutes. I even took it as far as Southampton when working there (60 miles).

And of course it just looked so damn cool :smokin

Ah if only my reactions were still quick enough, I would love to ride again :(

Hobosapien
12th October 2017, 07:57
Intermittent idle issue doesn't sound good; carbs or FI?

EFI. Initially due to it not idling after it was difficult to start (they swapped the ignition relay to 'fix' that), then they reckoned it 'might be' the auto choke. So some electronic brain air/fuel mix sensor issue.


I don't like the idea of an intermittent idle issue either. does it suddenly cut out? or do the tail off?

Just won't idle without needing some throttle, so when coming to a stop with the clutch in it stalls if no throttle kept on. Seems to be worse when hot, then it's a pig to get started again even when cooled down.

Now they reckon it's a weak fuel pump but at over £300 :eek: plus fitting I'm not totally convinced. Got a cousin who builds custom bikes as a hobby who owes me a favour and reckons he'll have it diagnosed correctly by the time I've finished a cuppa, but he's 300 miles away. Will take it over for him to have a look one weekend rather than keep throwing more good money after bad with the local chancers.

Does make me realise keeping the old van on the road is a lot more convenient (and sheltered from the elements) than messing about with bike trailers. For my push bikes too, just bungee them to the side, no poncy bike racks or getting mud inside the car. Seriously tempted to get a newer van just for the bikes.


Ah if only my reactions were still quick enough, I would love to ride again :(

My reactions aren't particularly great either but in the theory test and DAS training it's all about perception of risk and identifying it and avoiding before it requires an unexpected reaction. Even anticipating blind drivers pulling out of side roads shouldn't be totally down to reaction, having the front break covered and assessing the risk of swerving out of their way (as on the mod 1 test) just in case. The practice makes it second nature rather than a reaction. That's what I remember anyway. I'm sure there's more advanced training available too, to impart knowledge of how to stay safe in situations where you retain some control. Not that I've tried commuting through a city where all bets may be off.

It's that challenge and how I find cars just so dull these days (can't even use the power of even a Golf GTI let alone a proper sports car without getting done for being a naughty boy these days) that keeps me interested in bikes even when the weather is so unpredictable.

At least there's no proper ice/snow these days so all year riding isn't that hard or risky. Just need the right kit for the conditions.

lukemg
12th October 2017, 08:47
Just sold my bike after 4 years, astonished to get the same as I paid for it ! Just wasn't using it enough and found getting all the gear on a bit annoying. To be fair I was happy I had scratched the itch to get one and escaped without any mishaps, got a real buzz in the early days.
GLA

ContractorOnAMotorbike
12th October 2017, 09:07
Not hijacking the thread or anything :) ... does anyone else commute through the winter on an unfaired/naked bike? If so how do you keep your hands warm? I've heard people say bar muffs are the way to go but i haven't tried them yet.

I use a combination of hand guards, heated grips and decent winter gloves and it works sort of ok but at the end of my commute in the cold weather my hands are quite cold.

Hobosapien
12th October 2017, 09:25
.. how do you keep your hands warm? I've heard people say bar muffs are the way to go but i haven't tried them yet.

I use a combination of hand guards, heated grips and decent winter gloves and it works sort of ok but at the end of my commute in the cold weather my hands are quite cold.


Heated glove liner?

If the gloves are wind proof then fairing makes no difference, so 'just' need to ensure proper circulation (gloves not too tight) and some form of warm air barrier inside the glove (thermal lining or heated).

ContractorOnAMotorbike
12th October 2017, 09:31
Heated glove liner?

If the gloves are wind proof then fairing makes no difference, so 'just' need to ensure proper circulation (gloves not too tight) and some form of warm air barrier inside the glove (thermal lining or heated).

yes my gloves are definitely not too tight. I bought one of those "lobster" gloves and tried with an inner liner type thing. Heated liner sounds good. Is there any specific one you recommend? I think Keis makes one if i remember correctly as do a few others.

jamesbrown
12th October 2017, 09:43
Heated gloves are the only way to go on long commutes in sub-zero temperatures. Far more effective than heated grips. Gerbing (T5s) are good.

BR14
12th October 2017, 09:51
Ah if only my reactions were still quick enough, I would love to ride again :(

well, i'm still riding (and drumming) and i've got a freedom pass :D

oops, sorry, - Triumph bonneville 2010 currently. sprint ST, chopped BMW bobber previously. 'Guzzi california when i worked in Basel.

Grasser73
12th October 2017, 10:26
I have a 1965 BSA 650 Lightning but use is strictly fair weather only.

vwdan
12th October 2017, 10:37
oes anyone else commute through the winter on an unfaired/naked bike? If so how do you keep your hands warm? I've heard people say bar muffs are the way to go but i haven't tried them yet.

I use a combination of hand guards, heated grips and decent winter gloves and it works sort of ok but at the end of my commute in the cold weather my hands are quite cold.

Buy another bike. I'm, sadly, serious - did a LOT of commuting on my Bandit and it was always a struggle to keep warm. Spent a lot of money on decent gloves, heated inners and it was just a nightmare. Either freezing cold, or just incredibly hard work and I found it difficult to ride in chunky heated gloves. Tried all sorts and while it was bearable it was never much fun over distance.

Did an entire tour to France on the VFR and it was a breeze. The difference was STAGGERING. Didn't even need heated grips most of the time, but it was luxury when I did rather than being required for survival.

Hobosapien
12th October 2017, 10:45
Yep a cheap (but reliable :eyes) winter hack is the best way. Decent fairing and screen to keep the elements away rather than dressed up like the bibendum man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelin_Man) to achieve the same.

Plus it's easier to clean (never really understood the attraction of naked bikes from all nooks and crannies that would need cleaning) and all that road salt and crud doesn't matter as much if it's not your pride and joy.

Like I said earlier, proper bikers have more than one bike. :smokin

BR14
12th October 2017, 10:47
Like I said earlier, proper bikers have more than one bike.
AND a Haynes manual and toolkit :smokin

FTFY :D

Hobosapien
12th October 2017, 11:00
FTFY :D


Yep finally got a Haynes manual (Halfords seemed reasonably priced :eek: due to the online 'minimum retail price' Haynes must be setting for new manuals) though lots of stuff is explained pretty well via YouTube videos.

I just find it easier to refer to a manual specific to the model version rather than many sources going on about the older carb model.

Already cleaned the rear brake caliper that was 'grabbing' due to lack of use with it being in the workshop more than on the road recently, and changed the spark plug and air filter as cheap ways of trying to address the idling problem before handing it over to the 'experts' .

jamesbrown
12th October 2017, 11:56
Like I said earlier, proper bikers have more than one bike. :smokin

And know how to rebuild their carbs :D

(FI, meh).

ContractorOnAMotorbike
12th October 2017, 12:53
Buy another bike. I'm, sadly, serious - did a LOT of commuting on my Bandit and it was always a struggle to keep warm. Spent a lot of money on decent gloves, heated inners and it was just a nightmare. Either freezing cold, or just incredibly hard work and I found it difficult to ride in chunky heated gloves. Tried all sorts and while it was bearable it was never much fun over distance.

Did an entire tour to France on the VFR and it was a breeze. The difference was STAGGERING. Didn't even need heated grips most of the time, but it was luxury when I did rather than being required for survival.

haha... totally agree mate. I use my Honda Blackbird most of the time and I also own a Bandit as a winter hack. Only problem as you say is that the Bandit is absolutely awful in the winter or even spring for that matter. The Blackbird glides all the cold air over and around me while on the Bandit I feel like a sail of a boat catching all the freezing cold air if that makes sense.

Scruff
12th October 2017, 13:11
Kawasaki KDX220R for Trail / Enduro riding
BMW R100RT for General "Old Man" riding - Airhead fan

BR14
12th October 2017, 14:28
Kawasaki KDX220R for Trail / Enduro riding
BMW R100RT for General "Old Man" riding - Airhead fan

R100RT was the basis for my chop.

Scruff
12th October 2017, 14:30
R100RT was the basis for my chop.

What headlamp and "ears" did you use?

BR14
12th October 2017, 14:38
What headlamp and "ears" did you use?

Bates headlamp, can't remember indicators.
36mm Mikuni's, K&N filters, R100RS front end, peashooter zorsts.
i'd put up a pic, but you can't here :frown

Scruff
12th October 2017, 14:48
Sounds good...post it in a link?

Mine is too low miles, and in exceptional nick to Bob it...

Big Blue Plymouth
12th October 2017, 14:52
Not hijacking the thread or anything :) ... does anyone else commute through the winter on an unfaired/naked bike? If so how do you keep your hands warm? I've heard people say bar muffs are the way to go but i haven't tried them yet.

I use a combination of hand guards, heated grips and decent winter gloves and it works sort of ok but at the end of my commute in the cold weather my hands are quite cold.

Yep. Decent gloves and silk liners. Never do more than 20 miles though so the pain is manageable.

BR14
12th October 2017, 19:25
Sounds good...post it in a link?

Mine is too low miles, and in exceptional nick to Bob it...
CBA faffing with clouds and links. - PM me an Email addy and i'll send pics

vwdan
12th October 2017, 19:31
haha... totally agree mate. I use my Honda Blackbird most of the time and I also own a Bandit as a winter hack. Only problem as you say is that the Bandit is absolutely awful in the winter or even spring for that matter. The Blackbird glides all the cold air over and around me while on the Bandit I feel like a sail of a boat catching all the freezing cold air if that makes sense.

Yup - my dad's a lifelong biker and was mocking my attempts at buying gear. "I don't know what your problem is - I've never suffered with cold hands on bikes" etc etc. Then he borrowed it for a week while his GSXR was in the garage - soon changed his ******* tune after!

bluetoaster
12th October 2017, 23:06
Not hijacking the thread or anything :) ... does anyone else commute through the winter on an unfaired/naked bike? If so how do you keep your hands warm? I've heard people say bar muffs are the way to go but i haven't tried them yet.

I use a combination of hand guards, heated grips and decent winter gloves and it works sort of ok but at the end of my commute in the cold weather my hands are quite cold.

Good gloves and heated grips works for me. My main bike is the unfaired K1300R and my winter hack is a half faired Z750S, that half fairing makes a massive difference to the warmth, keeping the wind off my torso. Along with heated grips I don't have a problem.

Major Hassle
13th October 2017, 05:58
Lambretta GP 225 TS1, 35mm TMX Mikuni Franspeed Super Tourer

https://s1.postimg.org/2yfrls5pf3/IMG_4576.jpg

mattfx
13th October 2017, 09:47
I don't think I could ever ride a bike without a fairing again - I found my 125 wayyyy too cold and that was a naked jobby. All my bikes since then have been half or fully faired!

I wonder what GSA Adventures and Honda Varaderos are like at keeping the wind off?!

ContractorOnAMotorbike
13th October 2017, 14:51
I don't think I could ever ride a bike without a fairing again - I found my 125 wayyyy too cold and that was a naked jobby. All my bikes since then have been half or fully faired!

I wonder what GSA Adventures and Honda Varaderos are like at keeping the wind off?!

This has been an interesting thread... you dont hear a lot of people admit how poor their naked bikes are when it gets cold :D. I suspect the adventure bikes are a little better with hand guards and tall screens but surely not as good as a sports tourer or a supersport where you are leaned over plus get help from the fairing in directing air around you.

BR14
13th October 2017, 14:55
yeh, but naked bikes look much better.
you youngsters just need to toughen up :D

mattfx
13th October 2017, 15:00
Possibly the only thread on CUK to get to 6 pages and not have a single bit about brex..... I'm not going to finish that word so as not to ruin it :D

Hobosapien
13th October 2017, 15:00
Not sure naked bikes look better. It seems to me riding a naked bike is like riding a bike naked. I prefer to do neither.

ContractorOnAMotorbike
18th October 2017, 10:00
Anyone commute into London or any other town or city using a super sport like an R6/Blade etc?

I am thinking of scratching that supersport itch early next year and just wondering how practical litre sport bikes are for the daily commute :)

Eirikur
18th October 2017, 10:04
We have to be thankful to all those bikers providing organs to people who need them during sunny weekends. But stop ruining my weekends because every time one of you lays dead on the road I'm driving on and I can't recht my destination in time

barrydidit
18th October 2017, 10:09
We have to be thankful to all those bikers providing organs to people who need them during sunny weekends. But stop ruining my weekends because every time one of you lays dead on the road I'm driving on and I can't recht my destination in time

Try driving on the Links instead, they might stay alive longer.

BR14
18th October 2017, 10:29
Anyone commute into London or any other town or city using a super sport like an R6/Blade etc?

I am thinking of scratching that supersport itch early next year and just wondering how practical litre sport bikes are for the daily commute :)

not very IMHO.
they tend to be very uncomfortable and twitchy at low speeds.
you'd be better with a second hand bandit /diversion/ whatever for commuting, and save the rice rocket for weekends.

BR14
18th October 2017, 10:30
We have to be thankful to all those bikers providing organs to people who need them during sunny weekends. But stop ruining my weekends because every time one of you lays dead on the road I'm driving on and I can't recht my destination in time

Stuff you, and your weekends.
I bet you drive a volvo!
:laugh

greenlake
18th October 2017, 14:08
I bet you drive a volvo!

http://i.imgur.com/BvGk5HU.jpg

ContractorOnAMotorbike
18th October 2017, 14:12
We have to be thankful to all those bikers providing organs to people who need them during sunny weekends. But stop ruining my weekends because every time one of you lays dead on the road I'm driving on and I can't recht my destination in time

Lol... you're a funny piece of tulip! :rollin: