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clearedforlanding
31st January 2018, 14:22
Formula 1: 'Grid girls' will not be used at races this season - BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261)

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uk contractor
31st January 2018, 15:18
Silly decision to ban them but then again if you look at who now owns F1 & what their agenda is (build up its value to flip & sell onto someone else quick). Sky https://forums.contractoruk.com/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhFwAZAJEAAP///87/Y729vQAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEAAAAh/hBNTSBGaXJld29ya3MgMS4wACH5BAkNAAIALAIAAAAVABkAAAJ ilI8yu+m3gpTtwYmpVXTMGAyWNwAAaZIPap7tGTro4tJq4oWMD or4l9N9ZJmihmjM+ZA8UAzB4BifF42z89v5GBVoqLPckCjHjfS LNQc/1FFGGWZibu53uf42V4d6CLcvUAAAIfkECQ0AAgAsAAAAABcAGA AAAmOUjze76bmClO3BialVdMwYDJvgDQBQnuWWoosaiU/KmHVoeaG7g7KjCwVBuFnmqMkhQ0kEg/S5NQ1D6PJHFa6InYvuSa0BmWTsaBgdcTIrtfXTVQcx7fPx637T 89k9PwzmVgAAIfkECQ0AAgAsAAAAABcAFwAAAmGUjze76bmClO 3BialVdMwYDJvgDUBkolt5Mq36sC/whpYX0jIuxh8eAvYcwExmSKoUMTyEkPRjfDhS0ZJJ7fRAv2xIo 2AgoZTuyHAtndHHzvr6HfvatrexviZP82EGX1AAACH5BAkNAAI ALAAAAAAXABgAAAJklI83u+m5gpTtwYmpVXTMGAyb4DElE24ls LDswKbPCtRwHYszZYe97PB0PkLgJYM0HpFCHYJBIqI0z080qTy VSMXOpVnhQr8U6shQTDtH3fJalQGfr3Hlrm6/x+cczHtu8mdRAAAh+QQJDQACACwCAAAAFQAZAAACYpSPMrvpt4 KU7cGJqVV0zBgMlseQTPiQwLKuw4omKkC/NCzKVB3yMeLpfIK/S+ZYNB6DOQex9JQ1iEudBjTUnXJQZ6jT3JAomo3hmTVTyeFUht m2vpPyT1mMjLsx+lHJfFAAACH5BAkNAAIALAAAAAAXABgAAAJk lI83u+m5gpTtwYmpVXTMGAyb4DElE24lsLDswKbPCtRwHYszZY e97PB0PkLgJYM0HpFCHYJBIqI0z080qTyVSMXOpVnhQr8U6shQ TDtH3fJalQGfr3Hlrm6/x+cczHtu8mdRAAAh+QQJDQACACwAAAAAFwAXAAACYZSPN7vpuY KU7cGJqVV0zBgMm+AxJRNuJbCw7MCmzwrUcB2LM2WHvezwdD5C 4CWDNDIMxYxQx/yQiChNFCVqOjnPCojIpViZpmMIPIo6jap1CNpGltJTNzy+paul ekW5XwAAIfkECQ0AAgAsAAAAABcAGAAAAmSUjze76bmClO3Bia lVdMwYDJvgMSUTbiWwsOzAps8K1HAdizNlh73s8HQ+QuAlgzQe kUIdgkEiojTPTzSpPJVIxc6lWeFCvxTqyFBMO0fd8lqVAZ+vce Wubr/H5xzMe27yZ1EAACH5BAkNAAIALAIAAAAVABkAAAJblI8yu+m3g pTtwYmpVXTMGAyW54WmKTokVlKhGjIy8yblfd5w97Up0spkfkC hq7aL0TTARnBo+yielQstNYPdqptVbnM5xsCcIXJkHneNJPDz6 2aTDdQ5RGYvAAAh+QQJDQACACwAAAAAFwAYAAACZJSPN7vpuYK U7cGJqVV0zBgMm+AxJRNuJbCw7MCmzwrUcB2LM2WHvezwdD5C4 CWDNB6RQh2CQSKiNM9PNKk8lUjFzqVZ4UK/FOrIUEw7R93yWpUBn69x5a5uv8fnHMx7bvJnUQAAIfkECQ0AAg AsAAAAABcAFwAAAmGUjze76bmClO3BialVdMwYDJvgMSUTbiWw sOzAps8K1HAdizNlh73s8HQ+QuAlgzQyDMWMUMf8kIgoTRQlaj o5zwqIyKVYmaZjCDyKOo2qdQjaRpbSUzc8vqWrpXpFuV8AACH5 BAkNAAIALAAAAAAXABgAAAJklI83u+m5gpTtwYmpVXTMGAyb4D ElE24lsLDswKbPCtRwHYszZYe97PB0PkLgJYM0HpFCHYJBIqI0 z080qTyVSMXOpVnhQr8U6shQTDtH3fJalQGfr3Hlrm6/x+cczHtu8mdRAAAh+QQJDQACACwCAAAAFQAZAAACYpSPMrvpt4 KU7cGJqVV0zBgMlseQTPiQwLKuw4omKkC/NCzKVB3yMeLpfIK/S+ZYNB6DOQex9JQ1iEudBjTUnXJQZ6jT3JAomo3hmTVTyeFUht m2vpPyT1mMjLsx+lHJfFAAACH5BAkNAAIALAAAAAAXABgAAAJk lI83u+m5gpTtwYmpVXTMGAyb4DElE24lsLDswKbPCtRwHYszZY e97PB0PkLgJYM0HpFCHYJBIqI0z080qTyVSMXOpVnhQr8U6shQ TDtH3fJalQGfr3Hlrm6/x+cczHtu8mdRAAAh+QQJDQACACwAAAAAFwAXAAACYZSPN7vpuY KU7cGJqVV0zBgMm+AxJRNuJbCw7MCmzwrUcB2LM2WHvezwdD5C 4CWDNDIMxYxQx/yQiChNFCVqOjnPCojIpViZpmMIPIo6jap1CNpGltJTNzy+paul ekW5XwAAIfkECQ0AAgAsAAAAABcAGAAAAl6Ujze76bmClO3Bia lVdMwYDJvgeeF5ilaJmVS4hszMwI+Jo3jcfa7qcGUywODwZUMw SL6aRvlhHpOGUkQE8l1wFdLMmKOOftpRdVgyn1sdtfAjvqGf5j fdTVRDvvoCADs=are going to struggle to get their £1billion back for exclusive non FTA UK F1 coverage from 2019!

clearedforlanding
31st January 2018, 15:19
oops. Wrong place.

d000hg
31st January 2018, 18:54
Seems a bit unfair. Women aren't allowed to drive the cars, now they can't do this either.

washed up contractor
31st January 2018, 21:52
Formula 1: 'Grid girls' will not be used at races this season - BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261)

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Super Bikes had better looking girls anyway.

WTFH
1st February 2018, 08:24
Renamed and moved.

Lance
1st February 2018, 08:35
Seems a bit unfair. Women aren't allowed to drive the cars, now they can't do this either.

They are. There have been 4 as I recall.
They just aren’t good enough.

PhiltheGreek
1st February 2018, 09:16
Fear not, they'll still be getting groped in the sponsors tent.

darmstadt
1st February 2018, 09:21
Never really understood why they have them to be honest. A bit of eye candy for the armchair fans but they don't actually bring anything to the 'sport'. If they want to be all inclusive then maybe sprinkle in a few Chippendales as well :happy

woohoo
1st February 2018, 09:29
It's really a big joke, it's feminists finally getting their own way by riding on wave of hysteria over white men in power. Oh and insecure women that are probably fat probably support the feminists.

Not an F1 or darts fan, but just can't see the harm in it.

Would any of you actually mind if a good looking bloke was holding signs up at a predominantly female sporting event?

Jog On
1st February 2018, 09:40
This is going to get interesting - what will be next and where does it stop? Boxing ring round number holders? Cheerleaders? Models?

Kelly Brooke has already pushed back at this saying that it will put a lot of women out of work that they are actually quite happy doing.

The 'getting by on your looks' industry is under attack from the uglies and fatties that never made the cheerleading team. I think this will be one for the ladies to work out among themselves. :popcorn:

woohoo
1st February 2018, 09:43
This is going to get interesting - what will be next and where does it stop? Boxing ring round number holders? Cheerleaders? Models?

Kelly Brooke has already pushed back at this saying that it will put a lot of women out of work that they are actually quite happy doing.

The 'getting by on your looks' industry is under attack from the uglies and fatties that never made the cheerleading team. I think this will be one for the ladies to work out among themselves. :popcorn:

It's more difficult with sports like boxing or certain types of music. Because then race becomes a factor.

The fact that we have this debate about women holding cards up and then you have women forced to wear clothing that hides their face etc is madness.

Lance
1st February 2018, 09:46
Would any of you actually mind if a good looking bloke was holding signs up at a predominantly female sporting event?

Yes. I would. Not because it objectifies men though, it's just not what I want to see.

woohoo
1st February 2018, 09:47
Yes. I would. Not because it objectifies men though, it's just not what I want to see.

The Lance doth protest too much.

I was talking about female sporting events, like...erm, ok mmm women's rugby, nope they are mostly lesbians. Damn, can't think of anything.

WTFH
1st February 2018, 09:52
The fact that we have this debate about women holding cards up and then you have women forced to wear clothing that hides their face etc is madness.

Yes, interesting one that.
On one side you have people telling women what to wear and when there are complaints that it is degrading/wrong/etc, then the complainers are criticised
on the other side you have people telling women what to wear and when there are complaints that it is degrading/wrong/etc, then the complainers are criticised

If someone protests about women wearing bikinis, they should also protest about women wearing burkhas. And the reverse should be true as well.

woohoo
1st February 2018, 09:56
Yes, interesting one that.
On one side you have people telling women what to wear and when there are complaints that it is degrading/wrong/etc, then the complainers are criticised
on the other side you have people telling women what to wear and when there are complaints that it is degrading/wrong/etc, then the complainers are criticised

If someone protests about women wearing bikinis, they should also protest about women wearing burkhas. And the reverse should be true as well.

Might be worth rewriting your post, I gave up on it. :)

WTFH
1st February 2018, 09:59
Might be worth rewriting your post, I gave up on it. :)

Try just reading the last sentence.

Jog On
1st February 2018, 10:01
The Lance doth protest too much.

I was talking about female sporting events, like...erm, ok mmm women's rugby, nope they are mostly lesbians. Damn, can't think of anything.

Women's football is quite popular - where are the male cheerleaders!

Beach volleyball?

woohoo
1st February 2018, 10:02
Try just reading the last sentence.

If you can't be arsed rewriting it to make sense I can't be arsed reading it.

woohoo
1st February 2018, 10:04
Women's football is quite popular - where are the male cheerleaders!

Beach volleyball?

Is it quite popular, whats the fan base, young children?

Beach volleyball, is it popular, what's the demographic of the fan base?

Lance
1st February 2018, 10:05
The Lance doth protest too much.

I was talking about female sporting events, like...erm, ok mmm women's rugby, nope they are mostly lesbians. Damn, can't think of anything.

synchronised knitting?
Actually Aussie Women's cricket is OK, but watched mostly by men.

netball..... That's the one. Do they have good looking men at Netball events? If not I'm there :tongue

Jog On
1st February 2018, 10:16
More on pushback from Kelly Brook (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/kelly-brook-hits-back-at-feminists-pushing-to-axe-darts-girls-a3753911.html)


The former Formula One flag girl said that feminists who want to get rid of the tradition of the scantily clad girls were “taking away women’s rights” in an opinion piece for The Sun.

She said: “It’s probably not even occurred to these PC campaigners that the women might actually like the work”.

Ms Brook hit back at claims that the job “demeaned women”, writing: “These walk-on girls are intelligent women — a lot are probably trying to pay for their college or university education”.

I'm with Kelly on this one.

WTFH
1st February 2018, 10:18
If you can't be arsed rewriting it to make sense I can't be arsed reading it.

It makes sense. If you can't be bothered reading something that might challenge your viewpoint, that says a lot about you.

quackhandle
1st February 2018, 11:00
F1 hasn't been interesting since Senna was alive.

qh

ladymuck
1st February 2018, 11:00
Stuff like this really winds me up.

FWIW, if the full terms of the job are made clear up front and the person doing the job is happy with those terms then it doesn't matter what the job is and everyone else should damn well keep their beaks out.

I haven't watched F1 in years but that's because it became boring, not because I'm offend that some pretty girls chose to be on display to millions of people worldwide and are getting to travel the world holding up placards and umbrellas.

purple banana
1st February 2018, 11:40
I'd rather they hadn't got rid of the grid girls, they are professionals being paid to do a job - no different from anyone else in the paddock from cleaners to the drivers.

But in this PC-gone-mad world we live in, I can see Liberty didn't really have a choice once some hairy feminist climbed atop her soap box.

And it's no different from introducing the Halo, as soon as it had been designed and tested, it was inevitably going to end up on the cars. The sport couldn't survive the fall-out if it had been shelved and driver was killed by debris it would have stopped.

The sooner the agreements and deals Bernie put in place end the better. Only then will Liberty be able to start putting right the fundamentals of the sport. Broadcast rights, major technical regulations, races in the arse-end of nowhere. These are the major issues with F1 right now, and they're all ones that were signed off by that cretin before he took his cash and legged it.

fullyautomatix
1st February 2018, 11:56
They should take this a bit further and ban everything that involves women providing services predominantly to men, especially to men who are past their twenties.
Some professions come to mind. Escorts, waitresses, massage providers, etc.

Uncle Albert
1st February 2018, 11:58
They should take this a bit further and ban everything that involves women providing services predominantly to men, especially to men who are past their twenties.
Some professions come to mind. Escorts, waitresses, massage providers, etc.

Wives?

clearedforlanding
1st February 2018, 12:06
Has anyone else noticed how sportswomen dress? Running reams from the Olympics come to mind. In the name of equality men should run and jump without shirts i¡on.

d000hg
1st February 2018, 12:13
Would any of you actually mind if a good looking bloke was holding signs up at a predominantly female sporting event? but that's the point, they're not.

woohoo
1st February 2018, 12:38
It makes sense. If you can't be bothered reading something that might challenge your viewpoint, that says a lot about you.

I'm happy to read stuff that challenges my viewpoint.

But I'm not going to tease out your points when you can't be arsed putting any effort into your post.

ladymuck
1st February 2018, 12:39
Wives?

Especially wives

Jog On
1st February 2018, 12:40
This is a good read:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/post-mortem-corpse-social-justice


I do not want to diminish or underestimate the threat still posed to personal freedom by the adherents of the social justice cult, but at this stage I think it is safe to say that political correctness is effectively a dead movement walking.

Recent statistics without bias are hard to come by. That said, the latest available numbers show that people who agree with “gender equality” are many, but those who identify as “feminist” are slim. In the U.S. this constitutes 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 that identify as feminist depending on which polls you look at, while in the U.K. feminists make up only 7 percent of the population.

According to the CDC, abortion rates from 2008-2014 fell to historic lows post Roe v Wade. Abortion being a primary platform and leverage issue for social justice warriors, I take it as a good sign that even in a time of severe economic instability people are backing away from abortion as an acceptable option.

Just as a general observation, social justice has not been a reliable driver for political success, considering the abject failure of the Clinton Campaign in 2016, which clung tightly to SJW ideologies throughout the election cycle.

And finally, social justice has also not been selling so great in the marketplace. This is most evident in the entertainment world, where movies created by producers with open social justice agendas continually fail to bring in expected box office numbers.

For example, the feminist-produced and-directed Ghostbusters reboot ended with a dismal showing compared to many other blockbuster movies of with the same production costs, ending its run with an estimated $70 million loss.

Feminist action films perpetuating the fantasy of physical parity between the sexes, like the movie Atomic Blonde, though receiving accolades from mainstream critics (like all social justice films do), have had embarrassing showings in theaters.

And finally, perhaps the biggest sign of a sea change against social justice in pop culture, even massive brand names like Star Wars are suffering when social justice propaganda is injected into the franchise. The latest installment, The Last Jedi, with its obvious and heavy-handed social justice messages, had one of the worst second week showings of all the Star Wars movies (adjusted for inflation) and only generated a little over half of the revenues brought in by The Force Awakens. Not to mention the highly critical audience reviews and the complete bomb the movie suffered in the Chinese market, which was supposed to help elevate revenues that were expected to be much higher.

I haven't seen the latest Star Wars, don't really have any desire to either - it's been hijacked and turned into an agenda - Star Wars FFS! That is a crime against humanity...

woohoo
1st February 2018, 12:46
This is a good read:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/post-mortem-corpse-social-justice



I haven't seen the latest Star Wars, don't really have any desire to either - it's been hijacked and turned into an agenda - Star Wars FFS! That is a crime against humanity...

I think what will happen is that some excuse for the failure of these PC films will be found. Something like it's the culture in western society that brainwashes people to not go an watch films with female leads. Then legislation will be introduced to ensure that films have a 50-50 female lead ratio.

WTFH
1st February 2018, 12:47
I'm happy to read stuff that challenges my viewpoint.

But I'm not going to tease out your points when you can't be arsed putting any effort into your post.

OK, in simple terms:

OUTRAGE at women wearing bikinis/burkas
or
OUTRAGE at people complaining about women wearing bikinis/burkas.
Which DM headline matches which piece of clothing?

Is one piece of clothing something you think women should be made wear, but another piece of clothing something you think women should not be made to wear?

Jog On
1st February 2018, 12:50
They should take this a bit further and ban everything that involves women providing services predominantly to men, especially to men who are past their twenties.
Some professions come to mind. Escorts, waitresses, massage providers, etc.

"Instagram models", "Social influencers" - virtually every female recording artist and the hordes of 'professions' that involve getting paid to just hang around looking nice and not doing very much. What about lads mag glamour girls?

Jog On
1st February 2018, 12:52
OK, in simple terms:

OUTRAGE at women wearing bikinis/burkas
or
OUTRAGE at people complaining about women wearing bikinis/burkas.
Which DM headline matches which piece of clothing?

Is one piece of clothing something you think women should be made wear, but another piece of clothing something you think women should not be made to wear?

I'm for let them wear and do WTF they like and anyone complaining (including feminists) can foxtrot oscar.

original PM
1st February 2018, 12:54
OK, in simple terms:

OUTRAGE at women wearing bikinis/burkas
or
OUTRAGE at people complaining about women wearing bikinis/burkas.
Which DM headline matches which piece of clothing?

Is one piece of clothing something you think women should be made wear, but another piece of clothing something you think women should not be made to wear?

Rule 1 People should be allowed to wear what they want where it does not contravene decency standards.

Rule 2 If a person takes a job which has s specific uniform to wear and that is clearly stated in the job description then it is not a problem - if you do not want to wear it do not take the job.

Rule 3 If a person is forced to wear something because their society says they have to and not wearing it will cause comment at the very least or exclusion from society with a potential for more sinister punishments then see rule 1.

That makes it pretty clear I guess?

WTFH
1st February 2018, 12:56
Rule 3 If a person is forced to wear something because their society says they have to and not wearing it will cause comment at the very least or exclusion from society with a potential for more sinister punishments then see rule 1.

That makes it pretty clear I guess?

But if the person chooses to wear something, and someone, without asking that person, decrees that they are being forced to wear it, then the person making that decree is wrong, in my opinion. What about your opinion?

Jog On
1st February 2018, 13:02
But if the person chooses to wear something, and someone, without asking that person, decrees that they are being forced to wear it, then the person making that decree is wrong, in my opinion. What about your opinion?

This - people decreeing and getting offended in general is the problem, be they religious fanatics or progressive fanatics.

chopper
1st February 2018, 13:13
F1 tries to take the moral highground on this subject, but then races in locations where oppression of women actively occurs - think Bahrain, or Abu Dhabi for example. That's a pretty major spot of hypocrisy there.

I doubt the grid girls were forced against their will to be grid girls. They're just models who got a pretty good gig. Wouldn't it be terrible if they now had to take a different gig for a seedy client instead? e.g. whatever replaces the Presidents Club dinner?

And as for the Presidents Club - well, weren't all those men just acting presidential? I suspect a good number of those women knew exactly what they were signing up for when taking on a gig as a hostess at a dinner filled with potential sugar daddies?

The feminists and munters are taking away the rights of women to choose what they want to do, and if they are pretty enough to be paid to stand there and hold a sign, then fair play.

darmstadt
1st February 2018, 13:17
The feminists and munters are taking away the rights of women to choose what they want to do, and if they are pretty enough to be paid to stand there and hold a sign, then fair play.

Pretty much answers the reason why this happens...

Jog On
1st February 2018, 13:23
F1 tries to take the moral highground on this subject, but then races in locations where oppression of women actively occurs - think Bahrain, or Abu Dhabi for example. That's a pretty major spot of hypocrisy there.

I doubt the grid girls were forced against their will to be grid girls. They're just models who got a pretty good gig. Wouldn't it be terrible if they now had to take a different gig for a seedy client instead? e.g. whatever replaces the Presidents Club dinner?

And as for the Presidents Club - well, weren't all those men just acting presidential? I suspect a good number of those women knew exactly what they were signing up for when taking on a gig as a hostess at a dinner filled with potential sugar daddies?

The feminists and munters are taking away the rights of women to choose what they want to do, and if they are pretty enough to be paid to stand there and hold a sign, then fair play.

It's gonna get ugly if it carries on. I don't think these grid/darts/etc girls fancy the idea of having to go and get 'proper' jobs.

WTFH
1st February 2018, 13:38
This - people decreeing and getting offended in general is the problem, be they religious fanatics or progressive fanatics.

If by "religious" you mean those who follow a religion, or those who religiously oppose (a) religion.

i.e. someone screaming "ban the burka" on the front page of their religious text "newspaper" - they aren't "progressive fanatics", but they are (almost religiously) zealous in their fervour to be offended by something that is different to what they believe is right.

Jog On
1st February 2018, 14:01
If by "religious" you mean those who follow a religion, or those who religiously oppose (a) religion.

i.e. someone screaming "ban the burka" on the front page of their religious text "newspaper" - they aren't "progressive fanatics", but they are (almost religiously) zealous in their fervour to be offended by something that is different to what they believe is right.

By religious I meant people who follow religions.

original PM
1st February 2018, 14:52
If by "religious" you mean those who follow a religion, or those who religiously oppose (a) religion.

i.e. someone screaming "ban the burka" on the front page of their religious text "newspaper" - they aren't "progressive fanatics", but they are (almost religiously) zealous in their fervour to be offended by something that is different to what they believe is right.

Shut and show us your boobs.

( . ) ( . )

darmstadt
1st February 2018, 15:23
Hannah James:-

Ok, I have had enough of people talking for me so here is what I think regarding the banning of grid girls:

The issue at the moment is there are too many people being offended on behalf of people who are not offended at all!

Firstly, I absolutely LOVE my job. Secondly, I CHOOSE to do this job. Nobody forces me or any other grid girl to do it. Some of us do it full time, some like me do it alongside other work. The idea that grid girls are no more than a pretty face infuriates me; I am about to finish my degree and qualify as a Social Worker, there are grid girls that are lawyers, accountants, models, mums, it varies so much!

We work hard to build up a good reputation and a good relationship with our clients. I work in British Superbikes and Road Racing where it feels like we are one big family; why should I be taken away from that because somebody who has never worked a day in my shoes thinks they know what is best for me?

With regards to the outfits being too sexy and us women being objectified; let me clarify something. I NEVER work a job unless I am happy with the outfit. When I do grid work I am always 100% comfortable with what I wear and I do not feel any more objectified wearing what I do on the grid than I do if I put on a nice dress or some smart jeans to go out. What will be next, will swimwear models be banned because what they are wearing in catalogues is too revealing?

As my friend and fellow grid girl Giorgia Davies said; this has all happened because some girls were treated disrespectfully at an event .. so how about instead of banning the girls to eradicate the problem, we educate men and women that it is NOT ok to disrespect other people!!

My final gripe with all of this, is these so called feminists are giving real feminists a bad name! I am a feminist because I want women to be equal, I don’t want there to be discrimination in the work place if women choose to have babies, and I want women to feel empowered. So to have a ‘feminist’ sit on a talk show saying how she thinks grid girls should be banned, thus meaning a loss of job and income for women is completely contradictory.

Sidenote – men work as promotional models too! But with regards to being on the grid, as the sport is predominantly males, they (usually) prefer to have a female holding their umbrella, although I have seen female riders with male grid guys!

A suggestion was made that women should be given jobs in other areas such as commentating or spannering .. for those of you who don’t know, this already happens!

On a positive note I am so glad to see all of us women affected standing together fighting this

https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27066949_10159795795785012_1828138063477815892_n.j pg?oh=a605281d7f85a997463d51da8c5865ff&oe=5AE3AB0D

woohoo
1st February 2018, 15:40
OK, in simple terms:

OUTRAGE at women wearing bikinis/burkas
or
OUTRAGE at people complaining about women wearing bikinis/burkas.
Which DM headline matches which piece of clothing?

Is one piece of clothing something you think women should be made wear, but another piece of clothing something you think women should not be made to wear?

I take it English is not your first language?

WTFH
1st February 2018, 15:54
I take it English is not your first language?

It is my first.

I take it English comprehension isn't listed on you CV as a skill.

Platypus
1st February 2018, 17:10
Hannah James:-
....


Good common sense. Thanks for posting.

shaunbhoy
1st February 2018, 17:29
Would any of you actually mind if a good looking bloke was holding signs up at a predominantly female sporting event?

#metoo

:laugh

woohoo
1st February 2018, 17:41
It is my first.

I take it English comprehension isn't listed on you CV as a skill.

My apologies. I will make a special effort to comprehend your posts from now on.

shaunbhoy
1st February 2018, 17:42
My apologies. I will make a special effort to comprehend your posts from now on.

You will have to.

:laugh

unixman
1st February 2018, 19:09
This is a good read:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/post-mortem-corpse-social-justice



I haven't seen the latest Star Wars, don't really have any desire to either - it's been hijacked and turned into an agenda - Star Wars FFS! That is a crime against humanity...

I became a Star Wars fan after seeing the original, brilliant film in December 1977 (at the venerable Newcastle Odeon - one of the best cinemas in history). I stopped being a Star Wars fan in December '17 and I didn't go to see The Last Jedi. Thanks, Hollywood, for some brilliant entertainment over the last 40 years, but I probably won't take an interest in further Star Wars movies, unfortunately.

It feels like turning my back on an old friend, and that is sad. What was once an epic spectacle has turned into 120 minutes of ideological whinging. And I don't need that, thanks.